Chiefs Magee> Jackson, Dorsey

B_Ambuehl · 08-16-2009, 12:58 PM

At least last night, and it's not a difficult evaluation at all. Go back and watch every snap of the d-line if you don't believe me. He played with the starters on 3rd down and stood out the entire night regardless of where he lined up or who he played with.

He's big and quick and perfect for what they're asking him to do.

**Buehler445** · 08-16-2009, 12:58 PM

Dude. 2nd and 3rd Stringers.

Mr. Arrowhead · 08-16-2009, 12:59 PM

I thought Jackson looked like a beast

B_Ambuehl · 08-16-2009, 01:00 PM

He played quite a bit with the starters too.

TRR · 08-16-2009, 10:32 PM

Re-watching again, both Ron Edwards and Boone struggled terribly. Watching Tank Tyler at NT was refreshing...he's just so much more active than Edwards. I do however, really like our mix of DL's in Dorsey, Jackson, McGee and Tyler. Those four really go hard, and rarely took a play off in the 1st Preseason game.

Also...our QB's missed a lot of opportunites for some big plays. I also hope we focus on checking down to our RB's out of the backfield because they were open a lot, and never looked at...be it Cassel, Croyle, or Thigpen.
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**cdcox** · 08-16-2009, 10:47 PM

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I also hope we focus on checking down to our RB's out of the backfield because they were open a lot, and never looked at...be it Cassel, Croyle, or Thigpen.
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That isn't going to be a priority in this offense. Arizonal targeted 75% of their passes to WRs last year, which is incredibly high. In comparison, Indianapolis only targeted 56% of their passes to WR. We need another 1000-yard WR before this passing attack starts to reflect Haley's vision. And a TE doesn't count (hence Gonzo became very disposable).

Charles is a good option as a receiver, so I think he'll get involved in the passing game, but as for the rest of the backs, I don't see it.

kcchiefsus · 08-17-2009, 02:19 AM

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That isn't going to be a priority in this offense. Arizonal targeted 75% of their passes to WRs last year, which is incredibly high. In comparison, Indianapolis only targeted 56% of their passes to WR. We need another 1000-yard WR before this passing attack starts to reflect Haley's vision. And a TE doesn't count (hence Gonzo became very disposable).

Charles is a good option as a receiver, so I think he'll get involved in the passing game, but as for the rest of the backs, I don't see it.

That's fine, although in my opinion you should form the offense around the players you have, not the other way around. If you have a talent like Tony Gonzalez you find a way to utilize him.

**Buehler445** · 08-17-2009, 07:47 AM

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That isn't going to be a priority in this offense. Arizonal targeted 75% of their passes to WRs last year, which is incredibly high. In comparison, Indianapolis only targeted 56% of their passes to WR. We need another 1000-yard WR before this passing attack starts to reflect Haley's vision. And a TE doesn't count (hence Gonzo became very disposable).

Charles is a good option as a receiver, so I think he'll get involved in the passing game, but as for the rest of the backs, I don't see it.

I understand where you're coming from, but I really doubt Haley looks at film and says, "wow, the backs are REALLY open. **** it. Throw it to Bowe.". If it's there and the guy can catch, I inagine some balls will go that way.

It is good we are getting away fom the captain checkdown offense though.
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TheGuardian · 08-16-2009, 01:03 PM

Dorsey played VERY WELL last night, even Baldy commented on it. Jackson played well too but when it was 1 v's 1 Dorsey was the best down lineman last night easily. This scheme very much looks like he should be able to thrive in it.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-16-2009, 01:18 PM

Dorsey looked pretty damn good last night. Magee and Jackson played well for rooks as well.

GoHuge · 08-16-2009, 01:36 PM

I was happy as hell with the first series, but it's still a learning process. I saw what I needed to, and it made me warm in the naughty bits. Still some thinking going on, but you could see what they're capable of. Pretty excited.

**cdcox** · 08-16-2009, 01:42 PM

Dorsey, Jackson and McGee were all active and creating problems. My conclusion is that if we get a space eater at NT, we should be set on the DL for a decade.

chiefbowe82 · 08-16-2009, 01:44 PM

ron edwards and alphonso boone are our starters

bringbackmarty · 08-16-2009, 01:45 PM

Homers.
I don't know if we were watching the same game. I saw decent play the first series, but then I saw Dorsey eating ass on more than a couple of plays the second series. It was okay, mediocre starting point IMO.

**mlyonsd** · 08-16-2009, 01:53 PM

The defense looked to me like they had a different attitude.

The offense looked behind schedule but was so vanilla I'm not sure we should have expected much.

And it was nice to see a HC on the sideline without a stupid blank stare on his face.

08-16-2009, 12:58 PM	Topic Starter
B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9805405	Magee> Jackson, Dorsey At least last night, and it's not a difficult evaluation at all. Go back and watch every snap of the d-line if you don't believe me. He played with the starters on 3rd down and stood out the entire night regardless of where he lined up or who he played with. He's big and quick and perfect for what they're asking him to do.
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TRR The Priest and I Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: CO Casino cash: $9870185	Re-watching again, both Ron Edwards and Boone struggled terribly. Watching Tank Tyler at NT was refreshing...he's just so much more active than Edwards. I do however, really like our mix of DL's in Dorsey, Jackson, McGee and Tyler. Those four really go hard, and rarely took a play off in the 1st Preseason game. Also...our QB's missed a lot of opportunites for some big plays. I also hope we focus on checking down to our RB's out of the backfield because they were open a lot, and never looked at...be it Cassel, Croyle, or Thigpen. Posted via Mobile Device
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08-16-2009, 01:03 PM	#9
TheGuardian MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $8245299	Dorsey played VERY WELL last night, even Baldy commented on it. Jackson played well too but when it was 1 v's 1 Dorsey was the best down lineman last night easily. This scheme very much looks like he should be able to thrive in it.
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Pasta Little Brioni Consuming CP souls Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: U.S.A. Casino cash: $3748880	Dorsey looked pretty damn good last night. Magee and Jackson played well for rooks as well.
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cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $2231769	Dorsey, Jackson and McGee were all active and creating problems. My conclusion is that if we get a space eater at NT, we should be set on the DL for a decade.
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mlyonsd Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Spink, SD Casino cash: $1433762	The defense looked to me like they had a different attitude. The offense looked behind schedule but was so vanilla I'm not sure we should have expected much. And it was nice to see a HC on the sideline without a stupid blank stare on his face.
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