Chiefs Magee> Jackson, Dorsey - Page 2

B_Ambuehl · 08-16-2009, 12:58 PM

At least last night, and it's not a difficult evaluation at all. Go back and watch every snap of the d-line if you don't believe me. He played with the starters on 3rd down and stood out the entire night regardless of where he lined up or who he played with.

He's big and quick and perfect for what they're asking him to do.

ChiefaRoo · 08-16-2009, 02:15 PM

Ron Edwards sucks. He can't hold the LOS after the snap and gets NO push. Just a terrible NT.

Mecca · 08-16-2009, 02:21 PM

Ron Edwards as a nose is going to be a painful experience to watch all year.

ChiefaRoo · 08-16-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Ron Edwards as a nose is going to be a painful experience to watch all year.

Yep, it's painful to watch him get shoved off the LOS. He can't play low enough and can't plug the middle by keeping his shoulders square to the LOS. He f**ks up the LB's running lanes by getting shoved back so far.

**Buehler445** · 08-16-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Ron Edwards as a nose is going to be a painful experience to watch all year.

Truth.

Ron Edwards couldn't even get any push in the 4-3.

L.A. Chieffan · 08-16-2009, 02:30 PM

we were ****ing playing the houston ****ing texans in the first ****ing preseason ****ing game.

Mecca · 08-16-2009, 02:30 PM

I suspect after next years draft the Chiefs are going to have about 150 million dollars of DL.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-16-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Ron Edwards as a nose is going to be a painful experience to watch all year.

I agree. What did you think of Dorsey?

Mecca · 08-16-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

I agree. What did you think of Dorsey?

I think he did solid, Jackson and Magee were alot more pronounced and noticeable though.

The problem is Edwards as a nose is so ineffective he's going to make everyone else look worse. All Houston had to do was run up the middle and they got big gains.

ChiefaRoo · 08-16-2009, 02:35 PM

KC's D needs a stud MLB with an attitude.

O line needs a new Center and RT as well. They need to find a late round G too. That guy from Clemson, Richardson? can't play.

ChiefaRoo · 08-16-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I think he did solid, Jackson and Magee were alot more pronounced and noticeable though.

The problem is Edwards as a nose is so ineffective he's going to make everyone else look worse. All Houston had to do was run up the middle and they got big gains.

Totally agree.

**cdcox** · 08-16-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I think he did solid, Jackson and Magee were alot more pronounced and noticeable though.

The problem is Edwards as a nose is so ineffective he's going to make everyone else look worse. All Houston had to do was run up the middle and they got big gains.

Edwards is going to make the whole line look bad all year. He was getting pushed around by one guy on most plays, so the DE were seeing double teams.

But even with Edwards, the LB were mostly running free. That's why the likes of Hali, Studebaker, and Mays were able to run around and make plays. That's a pretty good indication that the DL is doing its job in the 3-4. You put a legitimate NT in there and the DL is going to be fine.

Hali wasn't effective defending the run at the POA, getting beat 1-on-1 on two consecutive runs on the Texan's first scoring drive. That is another concern that will tend to make the DL look bad.

Mecca · 08-16-2009, 02:46 PM

After that game I still see teams doing the same things I thought when I saw what the defense would be the first time..

Attacking Edwards and Hali repeatedly.

ChiefaRoo · 08-16-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

Edwards is going to make the whole line look bad all year. He was getting pushed around by one guy on most plays, so the DE were seeing double teams.

But even with Edwards, the LB were mostly running free. That's why the likes of Hali, Studebaker, and Mays were able to run around and make plays. That's a pretty good indication that the DL is doing its job in the 3-4. You put a legitimate NT in there and the DL is going to be fine.

Hali wasn't effective defending the run at the POA, getting beat 1-on-1 on two consecutive runs on the Texan's first scoring drive. That is another concern that will tend to make the DL look bad.

I agree, Hali is a situational pass rusher IMO right now. He has to learn to play the run angles. He's way too wide and he falls for it everytime. He can improve but it's going to take some work. If he doesn't I don't see him getting more than 5-10 plays a game in the years to come as a situational rusher.

Mecca · 08-16-2009, 02:50 PM

They might aswell just leave Hali out there and see if he gets it or not. The team isn't going to win anything this year and they have no one else to play. See if he can sink or swim if he sinks replace him after the year.

**BigMeatballDave** · 08-16-2009, 03:25 PM

Please CUT Edwards NOW!

08-16-2009, 12:58 PM
B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9805405	Magee> Jackson, Dorsey At least last night, and it's not a difficult evaluation at all. Go back and watch every snap of the d-line if you don't believe me. He played with the starters on 3rd down and stood out the entire night regardless of where he lined up or who he played with. He's big and quick and perfect for what they're asking him to do.
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08-16-2009, 02:15 PM	#16
ChiefaRoo MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Austin,TX Casino cash: $5037505	Ron Edwards sucks. He can't hold the LOS after the snap and gets NO push. Just a terrible NT.
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08-16-2009, 02:21 PM	#17
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2377050	Ron Edwards as a nose is going to be a painful experience to watch all year.
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L.A. Chieffan PLAY GOOD FOOTBALL Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: American Gardens Building Casino cash: $3968654	we were **ing playing the houston ing texans in the first ing preseason **ing game.
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08-16-2009, 02:30 PM	#21
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2377050	I suspect after next years draft the Chiefs are going to have about 150 million dollars of DL.
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08-16-2009, 02:35 PM	#24
ChiefaRoo MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Austin,TX Casino cash: $5037505	KC's D needs a stud MLB with an attitude. O line needs a new Center and RT as well. They need to find a late round G too. That guy from Clemson, Richardson? can't play.
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08-16-2009, 02:46 PM	#27
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2377050	After that game I still see teams doing the same things I thought when I saw what the defense would be the first time.. Attacking Edwards and Hali repeatedly.
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08-16-2009, 02:50 PM	#29
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2377050	They might aswell just leave Hali out there and see if he gets it or not. The team isn't going to win anything this year and they have no one else to play. See if he can sink or swim if he sinks replace him after the year.
Posts: 111,108

08-16-2009, 03:25 PM	#30
BigMeatballDave GBM 8-12-15 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dayton, Oh. Casino cash: $10052154	Please CUT Edwards NOW!
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