Chiefs Mavericks Post Week 3 thoughts - Page 5

**Mav** · 09-20-2013, 10:49 AM

Oh NOOOZ ANOTHER THREAD......

Yeah, I get it. But I have some specific points that I want to make. Some gloating, some observations that even I didn't know, some props, and some point and laugh moments.

Since I got here back in February, once the Alex Smith trade was made known, I have stated a couple of things that were one, laughed at, and two got me torched.

The thing that I am most proud of, is how I PREDICTED correctly how good this Chiefs defense was going to be. Every time I mentioned how much of a difference that Bob Sutton and his style of defense was going to make to this team I was scorned. When I contradicted Clay about how good Sean Smith was going to be in this type of scheme, I was ridiculed because PFF told you that he sucked. Poe receives a crap ton of love on this forum NOW. He didn't then. He was another bust of a pick according to some on here. Not matching the draft slot with the production. The unsung hero of this defense, is Mike DeVito. He is constantly keeping linemen off of Hali, the same can be said on the other side for Tyson Jackson, who not only has been keeping Houston free to be the best defender in football so far in the season, but he has also been very staunch against the run. Eric Berry has looked much better too. One thing I have heard almost exclusively, is how Berry cant cover. Yet he was part of a defense that pretty much shut out Jason Witten, a premiere tight end in the league.

So far, the Chiefs defense, is giving up just over 11 points per game.

Elite? You bet your ass. The Chiefs defense is filthy right now. Every bit as dominant as the Seahawks defense right now. Their front 7 to me is the best in the league. The only real concern I have about the Chiefs is at free safety. Kendrick Lewis, is horrid in coverage, and as a tackler. The angle he took on Michael Vick on his 61 yard run last night, was about the worst angle I have ever seen. A competent safety keeps that to a 15 yard run.

The offense, is a work in progress. Despite the short week, the missing of the teams top 3 tight ends in Fasano, Kelce, and Moeaki, and the lack of a slot/ 3rd down receiver, the offense showed just enough to utilize the strength of the team. The defense, and that beautiful foot off Dustin Colquitt.

Combine that with mistake free football from the offense, and very clutch play in the 4th quarter by Alex Smith, and adjustment in play calling by Andy Reid switching away from the shot gun on the long drive and utilizing Anthony Sherman in front of Jamaal Charles, not to mention Jamaal Charles running like a pure mack truck earning hard yards, and finishing runs like Walter Payton, and all of a sudden, an offensive line that was much maligned for most of the game, a non existent running game and questionable at best play calling, its almost a tease as to what the Chiefs offense can be.

Defintely, there were stretches, hell, from the first quarter until the 4th, the offense was atrocious. Bad throws, bad blocks, bad runs, clearly and I don't know how many people saw it, but when Andy tore into Charles for not converting that 3rd and 1, he went berserk, and after that Jamaal Charles was a completely different animal.

I would be remised if I didn't mention the clear play making ability of Donnie Avery. He was the Chiefs offense last night. Forget the best play of the night, the absolute strike that Alex Smith and Avery completed to overcome a bone headed play by McCluster and the egregious call to even have him back there at all with the way Demps had been returning kicks the entire night, but the momentum was purely in the Eagles favor at that point. No, look past that, Donnie Avery several times last night took 3rd and long short check down crossing routes, made guys miss, and picked up first downs.

The offense is NOT perfect obviously. Several aspects have to be cleaned up. The play calling, the amount of passes called in the first half, 29 is too lopsided. The oline did not play well for long stretches. Fisher was routinely abused, Albert didn't play that well either, and some of his penalties were very ill timed. Alex Smith has to be a little more risky, and has to learn to trust his guys. But there is room for growth. It's not like the ceiling has been met. The offense is on its floor. But, I believe that the arrow is pointed up.

I am happy for all of you Chiefs fans. I know that some here only see them as regular season warriors. But the truth is, teams that play really good defense, don't turn the ball over, and can run the ball, are winning now days in the playoffs. The Chiefs will not be someone that anyone will like playing come playoff times.

Thoughts? Hate? Dislike? LOATHE?

Fish · 09-20-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Long time no see Fish.....

Good to see you.

Glad to know that a well thought out post is nonsense. Which part of it was NON SENSE btw?

I would be INTRIGUED to know. This should be fun. I thought you had enough of me kicking your teeth down your throat back in Feb/march.

It's fairly amusing that you think anybody takes you seriously after you had to change your username because you used he same one in your frequent involvement in hard core porn. But yeah, champ... keep on keepin on.....

**Mav** · 09-20-2013, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

It's fairly amusing that you think anybody takes you seriously after you had to change your username because you used he same one in your frequent involvement in hard core porn. But yeah, champ... keep on keepin on.....

Or because as it was pointed out, that it wasn't smart to have my birthday in my user name?

But you keep going on. About ONE porn site, when I was deployed.

That's all you got? After all your boo hooing about alex smith and the chiefs sucking?

Hmmm, Cool. I think I know who won this football debate....

B_Ambuehl · 09-20-2013, 03:01 PM

The D has some moments but they aren't there yet. They gave up over 250 yds rushing and 450 + total last night. They're not there yet but they have some potential.

It's possible to win quite a few games in ths league just by avoiding things that get you beat, and this team seems to be pretty good at that. Turnovers, defensive penalties, special teams gaffes. Avoid those things and you'll win some games.

Snapplez · 09-20-2013, 03:04 PM

Lol Trent Richardson

Ceej · 09-20-2013, 03:05 PM

I don't give an F word how many yards this team gives up.

I am more worried about how many ppg they give up.

**Mav** · 09-20-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

The D has some moments but they aren't there yet. They gave up over 250 yds rushing and 450 + total last night. They're not there yet but they have some potential.

It's possible to win quite a few games in ths league just by avoiding things that get you beat, and this team seems to be pretty good at that. Turnovers, defensive penalties, special teams gaffes. Avoid those things and you'll win some games.

hmmm, speaking of that. That bullshit pass interference call on Berry. BOOOOOOOOOOOO.......

But no. There are always things to work on. What was clear, was they were not going to let Vick sit in the pocket and find open guys. They were going to attack him, and make him make mistakes. Their offense is so fast and spread out that you are going to have big plays.

You can have all the yards you want, but when you only get 16 points? That's pretty impressive. Short week on the road no less.

**Mav** · 09-20-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Snapplez

Lol Trent Richardson

Dad face

uncool.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceej

I don't give an F word how many yards this team gives up.

I am more worried about how many ppg they give up.

Bingo.

**TimeForWasp** · 09-20-2013, 03:17 PM

Good solid post Maverick

TEX · 09-20-2013, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

They put him on IR. he is still a chief.

Gotcha, so he's done for the year then? For some reason I thought the Chiefs ouright cut Moeaki.

**Mav** · 09-20-2013, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Gotcha, so he's done for the year then?

Not sure. I don't think they put him on the to return list.....

Id have to look....

Its pretty much irrelevant. What would really help, is fricking Kelce getting healthy.

Sandy Vagina · 09-20-2013, 03:33 PM

A little bit of chest thumping in the beginning, but I consider it deserving, since you... we... take so much silly shit from the haters and xenophobics.

Solid post, Mav. I don't like everything you say or some of your tactics, but you are a pretty good dude.

MTG#10 · 09-20-2013, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

It's fairly amusing that you think anybody takes you seriously after you had to change your username because you used he same one in your frequent involvement in hard core porn. But yeah, champ... keep on keepin on.....

Whats wrong with hard core porn?

Hammock Parties · 09-20-2013, 03:47 PM

hey hey

props

RobBlake · 09-20-2013, 04:24 PM

solid post, dont mind the class clowns... they are the same dudes who always had to say something in highschool.

Pasta Little Brioni · 09-20-2013, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this kc team is not that good. Great defense, yes. But this team will struggle against good teams. So far kc has managed to beat up on Jax who turned the ball over, Dallas who turned the ball over and Philly who turned the ball over FIVE TIMES.

Keep drinking the cherry koolaid, but sooner or later the cyanide will kick in.

You are one of the dumbest ****s of all time here man

09-20-2013, 10:49 AM
Mav XBOX GT MAVS ACE Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Wisconsin Casino cash: $10019303	Mavericks Post Week 3 thoughts Oh NOOOZ ANOTHER THREAD...... Yeah, I get it. But I have some specific points that I want to make. Some gloating, some observations that even I didn't know, some props, and some point and laugh moments. Since I got here back in February, once the Alex Smith trade was made known, I have stated a couple of things that were one, laughed at, and two got me torched. The thing that I am most proud of, is how I PREDICTED correctly how good this Chiefs defense was going to be. Every time I mentioned how much of a difference that Bob Sutton and his style of defense was going to make to this team I was scorned. When I contradicted Clay about how good Sean Smith was going to be in this type of scheme, I was ridiculed because PFF told you that he sucked. Poe receives a crap ton of love on this forum NOW. He didn't then. He was another bust of a pick according to some on here. Not matching the draft slot with the production. The unsung hero of this defense, is Mike DeVito. He is constantly keeping linemen off of Hali, the same can be said on the other side for Tyson Jackson, who not only has been keeping Houston free to be the best defender in football so far in the season, but he has also been very staunch against the run. Eric Berry has looked much better too. One thing I have heard almost exclusively, is how Berry cant cover. Yet he was part of a defense that pretty much shut out Jason Witten, a premiere tight end in the league. So far, the Chiefs defense, is giving up just over 11 points per game. Elite? You bet your ass. The Chiefs defense is filthy right now. Every bit as dominant as the Seahawks defense right now. Their front 7 to me is the best in the league. The only real concern I have about the Chiefs is at free safety. Kendrick Lewis, is horrid in coverage, and as a tackler. The angle he took on Michael Vick on his 61 yard run last night, was about the worst angle I have ever seen. A competent safety keeps that to a 15 yard run. The offense, is a work in progress. Despite the short week, the missing of the teams top 3 tight ends in Fasano, Kelce, and Moeaki, and the lack of a slot/ 3rd down receiver, the offense showed just enough to utilize the strength of the team. The defense, and that beautiful foot off Dustin Colquitt. Combine that with mistake free football from the offense, and very clutch play in the 4th quarter by Alex Smith, and adjustment in play calling by Andy Reid switching away from the shot gun on the long drive and utilizing Anthony Sherman in front of Jamaal Charles, not to mention Jamaal Charles running like a pure mack truck earning hard yards, and finishing runs like Walter Payton, and all of a sudden, an offensive line that was much maligned for most of the game, a non existent running game and questionable at best play calling, its almost a tease as to what the Chiefs offense can be. Defintely, there were stretches, hell, from the first quarter until the 4th, the offense was atrocious. Bad throws, bad blocks, bad runs, clearly and I don't know how many people saw it, but when Andy tore into Charles for not converting that 3rd and 1, he went berserk, and after that Jamaal Charles was a completely different animal. I would be remised if I didn't mention the clear play making ability of Donnie Avery. He was the Chiefs offense last night. Forget the best play of the night, the absolute strike that Alex Smith and Avery completed to overcome a bone headed play by McCluster and the egregious call to even have him back there at all with the way Demps had been returning kicks the entire night, but the momentum was purely in the Eagles favor at that point. No, look past that, Donnie Avery several times last night took 3rd and long short check down crossing routes, made guys miss, and picked up first downs. The offense is NOT perfect obviously. Several aspects have to be cleaned up. The play calling, the amount of passes called in the first half, 29 is too lopsided. The oline did not play well for long stretches. Fisher was routinely abused, Albert didn't play that well either, and some of his penalties were very ill timed. Alex Smith has to be a little more risky, and has to learn to trust his guys. But there is room for growth. It's not like the ceiling has been met. The offense is on its floor. But, I believe that the arrow is pointed up. I am happy for all of you Chiefs fans. I know that some here only see them as regular season warriors. But the truth is, teams that play really good defense, don't turn the ball over, and can run the ball, are winning now days in the playoffs. The Chiefs will not be someone that anyone will like playing come playoff times. Thoughts? Hate? Dislike? LOATHE?
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09-20-2013, 03:01 PM	#63
B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9805405	The D has some moments but they aren't there yet. They gave up over 250 yds rushing and 450 + total last night. They're not there yet but they have some potential. It's possible to win quite a few games in ths league just by avoiding things that get you beat, and this team seems to be pretty good at that. Turnovers, defensive penalties, special teams gaffes. Avoid those things and you'll win some games. __________________ Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott agreed with" LOL
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