Baby kidnapped from home in KC

[Iowanian]

How is this not a topic of discussion on a KC message board?

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Hydrae

A couple of things I notice about timelines and questions raised in this thread.

First, mom was buying wine at 4:45. Someone wanted to know who was watching the kids. I believe dad was still at home and had not left for work. Simple enough.

Second, there is the question of whether dad came home for dinner at 5:30. Pretty sure the story (yeah, I know, that alone raises questions in this case) was that he left for work at 5:00 (right after mom got back from the store with the wine?). if so, he would not have been home for dinner 30 minutes later. So if he came home, it was later in the evening at an unknown time. I would think there may have been a coworker who could corroborate the timing of his being off-site from the repair work at Starbucks.

I was probably just wrong when I said 5:30 instead of 5:00. I was too lazy to look it up.

[Titty Meat]

The whole thing is silly. I know someone who got interrogated because people called the police because the guys baby looked like the one that is missing.

[ImAWalkingCorpse]

Report: Attorney Cyndy Short has been forced off the Lisa Irwin case. More details when we get 'em... - JasonV

I saw this, this morning on facebook.

[bevischief]

Originally Posted by ImAWalkingCorpse

Report: Attorney Cyndy Short has been forced off the Lisa Irwin case. More details when we get 'em... - JasonV

I saw this, this morning on facebook.

[Deberg_1990]

The family called off the re-interview of baby Lisa's big brothers.......that doesnt look good.




KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) - Debbie Bradley and Jeremy Irwin have canceled plans for a trained specialist to interview their two sons about the disappearance of their missing daughter.

The 5- and 8-year-old half brothers were scheduled to be interviewed for a second time Friday. The specialist was also to take DNA samples from the boys.

But Kansas City police said about 10 p.m. Thursday that those interviews were off at the request of Joe Tacopina, the New York attorney who is representing Bradley and Irwin.

Darin Snapp, spokesman for the Kansas City Police Department, said that Tacopina did not give a reason. Tacopina indicated that the interviews would be rescheduled for next week and police hope that occurs, Snapp said.

Police have said they needed the two boys to answer questions about what they saw and heard in the hours in which their sister went missing from her Northland home more than three weeks ago. Police had sought the boys' DNA in an effort to compare it against DNA collected from the home.

Tacopina was in Rome earlier this week and could not be reached for comment Thursday night.

Relations between the couple and detectives have been tense since the initial hours when baby Lisa went missing. The couple faced tough questioning from detectives.

The boys were initially interviewed by a trained specialist in the hours immediately after their sister went missing and an Amber Alert was in place for the Kansas City area.


The cancellation of the interviews comes the same day that the Kansas City area attorney for the couple called off a news conference and a tour of their home. Kansas City police also helped lead a two-hour search of a nearby pond Thursday, but turned up nothing.


Bradley has said she expects to be arrested in connection with the disappearance of her daughter. Irwin called 911 about 4 a.m. Oct. 4 to say someone had snatched his sleeping daughter from the crib of their home.

No suspects have been identified publicly by police.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/15896385/...thers-scrapped

[ImAWalkingCorpse]

http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-baby...,1271688.story

As the investigation stretched into its 25th day, Tina Porter reached out to Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, to offer her help. She wasn't welcomed.

"I said, 'I'm Tina Porter, I want to speak to Jeremy and Deborah," said Tina Porter. The response she got: "'Well, you can go through their attorney,'" Porter said.

Tina Porter's kids, Sam and Lindsey were missing for three years. She searched high and low and talked to anyone who would listen. Tina's ex-husband eventually led police to their bodies.

Porter was only at the home for seconds before she was turned away, and the line about the attorney didn't go over well with her.

"Are you kidding me? That's who got them in this mess," she said. "They don't need a damn attorney."

Ironically, Lisa's parents have one less attorney now. There's speculation she was fired by New York-based attorney Joe Tacopina. But Cyndy Short will only confirm she's no longer working with them.

"It just doesn't make sense," Porter said. "She's a fantastic lawyer."

Defense attorney Matt O'Connor said he doesn't have anything to do with the case, but as a professional, a father and a member of the Kansas City community, he has a strong opinion.

"Once again, instead of 'where's the child, what happened?' we're talking about who her lawyer is? Really? That's sad," he said.

As for Porter, she said she feels each day this continues, more and more people are pulling away.

"When this is all over and said and done, and whatever happens with Lisa, if they expect the community to wrap their arms around them, I think they got another thing coming," she said.

After that statement, Porter left. A couple minutes later the police pulled up, at the request of Lisa's family.

Police asked FOX 4 crews what happened and they told them that Porter had left after trying two time to speak with the family. After the porch light was turned off on her, she was discouraged from any more attempts.

Police then left and shortly after, family consultant Bill Stanton Showed up. A few minutes later he and others packed up a minivan. Once that was done, Jeremy Irwin, Deborah Bradley, their two boys and other family members left in a caravan to an unknown location.

And that's how day 25 ended, and still no sign of baby Lisa.

[Iowanian]

These people aren't doing anything to give the general public or police a reason to not think they're guilty of the disappearance of this kid.

[HonestChieffan]

Matter of time. The dad has dead eyes.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by ImAWalkingCorpse

http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-baby...,1271688.story

As the investigation stretched into its 25th day, Tina Porter reached out to Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, to offer her help. She wasn't welcomed.

"I said, 'I'm Tina Porter, I want to speak to Jeremy and Deborah," said Tina Porter. The response she got: "'Well, you can go through their attorney,'" Porter said.

Tina Porter's kids, Sam and Lindsey were missing for three years. She searched high and low and talked to anyone who would listen. Tina's ex-husband eventually led police to their bodies.

Porter was only at the home for seconds before she was turned away, and the line about the attorney didn't go over well with her.

"Are you kidding me? That's who got them in this mess," she said. "They don't need a damn attorney."

Ironically, Lisa's parents have one less attorney now. There's speculation she was fired by New York-based attorney Joe Tacopina. But Cyndy Short will only confirm she's no longer working with them.

"It just doesn't make sense," Porter said. "She's a fantastic lawyer."

Defense attorney Matt O'Connor said he doesn't have anything to do with the case, but as a professional, a father and a member of the Kansas City community, he has a strong opinion.

"Once again, instead of 'where's the child, what happened?' we're talking about who her lawyer is? Really? That's sad," he said.

As for Porter, she said she feels each day this continues, more and more people are pulling away.

"When this is all over and said and done, and whatever happens with Lisa, if they expect the community to wrap their arms around them, I think they got another thing coming," she said.

After that statement, Porter left. A couple minutes later the police pulled up, at the request of Lisa's family.

Police asked FOX 4 crews what happened and they told them that Porter had left after trying two time to speak with the family. After the porch light was turned off on her, she was discouraged from any more attempts.

Police then left and shortly after, family consultant Bill Stanton Showed up. A few minutes later he and others packed up a minivan. Once that was done, Jeremy Irwin, Deborah Bradley, their two boys and other family members left in a caravan to an unknown location.

And that's how day 25 ended, and still no sign of baby Lisa.

Get a clue Tina. They are not letting u reach out to them because the baby is long dead and one of them killed it.

[stonedstooge]

But their big time NY attorney said he is representing them because he knows they are innocent. I imagine just like that friggin Van Der Sloot scab that was involved in the Natalie Holloway case

[Pioli Zombie]

Fat Bastard did it.

[FAX]

Well, for the first time ever, I decided to review some of the interviews conducted with the parents. The guy knows something. That's for sure. You don't have to be an expert in body language to see it. As for the mom, she appears to be crazy anyhow so anything is possible.

Given the behavior of the "father", though, it is pretty obvious that he is concealing something.

FAX

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Fat Bitch did it.

FYP

[ForeverChiefs58]

Missing Baby Lisa Irwin: Damaging Details Emerge Despite Damage Control


Kansas City, Mo., attorney Cyndy Short no longer represents missing baby Lisa Irwin's parents, Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin. The report of Short's exit from the case comes from Judge Jeanine Pirro, who hosts Fox's "Justice with Judge Jeanine." Thursday, Short canceled a planned media walk-through of the couple's North Lister Street home and an investigative interview of baby Lisa's half-brothers, ages 5 and 8. The reason she gave was exhaustion.

Here's more on the damaging details that are emerging in the Irwin case:

* Pirro did not know whether lead attorney Joe Tacopina fired Short or whether she left the case for other reasons. But ABC News reported that she was "forced off the case overnight," local Kansas City station KMBC said.


* The Irwin's New York counsel Joe Tacopina has told police he will reschedule the interview of the two boys for sometime next week. That's when the case will mark its one-month anniversary. It's an extraordinarily late time to be finally allowing interviews of witnesses who were in the house the night the baby is said to have disappeared.


* Deborah Bradley acknowledged her son and Irwin's son heard something the night baby Lisa disappeared. But Bradley said the couple avoided further questioning of the boys so as not to put them through anything else.


* Jeremy Irwin's sister Ashley Irwin, who said on Facebook she is a third year law student, has been coordinating some of the search activities and also, apparently, running damage control. When a poster to her Facebook page asked Tuesday why the boys weren't made available for police interviews, Ashley Irwin said they were interviewed right after the disappearance. This is a truthful answer but an evasive one that obscures the conflict between police and the parents over more extensive interviews. "Anything else you want to know don't hesitate to ask. I'm all for clearing up rumors," Ashley Irwin posted.

* There was a phone call made from one of the missing cellphones in the early morning hours of Oct. 4. Judge Pirro said the police confirmed this to her. The recipient of the call was the message box of someone named Megan Wright. Police have talked to Wright but haven't released details of what, if anything, they learned. This new revelation by Judge Pirro is consistent with Bradley's statements about early police interviews in which she said they had ping data from one of the phones. Was Ashley Irwin misinformed, or attempting serious damage control when she claimed that the 2:30 a.m. phone call was a rumor and could not possibly have happened? The blog Shadowplay noted that Ashley Irwin posted on its Find Baby Lisa Facebook page Oct. 17, "Jeremy was at home with the children while Debbie & her brother went to the store. The 2:30 a.m. phone call is a false rumor. Their cellphones were shut off due to non-payment. No one could have made a call and that is also why police couldn't ping them."


* Bradley and Jeremy Irwin said they discovered that their cellphones were missing when they tried to call 911 after discovering their daughter missing and not finding her in a house search. "Jeremy had his work cellphone on his body when he got home at 4 a.m. That's how they called 911." Ashley Irwin posted Oct. 17 on Find Baby Lisa. So why was there any effort to find missing home cellphones or delay in calling 911?

http://news.yahoo.com/missing-baby-l...135000443.html

[ForeverChiefs58]

if the phones were shut off due to non paymet then why did the mom say in interview she was reprogramming them?

Did the dad came home for diner after 6:40? He would be the last to see her then?