2013 Sandbox Simulations League 2 - Page 24

**Old Dog** · 01:06 PM

Complete Rookie draft

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**cdcox** · 05-27-2013, 05:06 PM

Note changes. Beta and everything.

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Originally Posted by cdcox

I'm going to take down the site to load the free agent system up now. Shouldn't take too long.

I'm going to leave the bidding system inactive until ~~Thursday night~~ Sunday, June 9 to allow everyone to do the following:

1. Become familiar with the list of free agents.
2. Cut your rosters to 53. You won't get your bid buttons active unless you are below at or below the 53 man roster.
3. ~~Begin planning~~ Plan how you will invest your salary points between players now on your roster and in free agency.
4. Sign all the players that you are keeping to contracts.

From a mechanics point of view, there are two screens you will want to work with: manage roster (which you've seen before, but it now has new functionality) and the free-agent bid board, located under the draft tab.

In general, I've included all players that saw significant playing time in 2011 or 2012. If an older player missed 2012, I may have not included him on the assumption that he is retired. If you want anyone to be listed that I've missed, shoot me a PM. I need to add some punters and kickers.

Note: on the Manage Roster page you can juggle the various contracts up and down and watch the effect on your bankroll. They do not become final until you hit the button sign all contracts. That will finalize any contracts where it has a finite duration, rather than "no contract" indicated. So if you want, you can sign contracts in batches-- just make sure the players you aren't ready to sign say "no contract". To release a player, you must hit the release button for that player.

You do NOT have to finalize all your contracts of the players on your roster by Thursday. You will need to before the beginning of the simulation season, or at a point that we believe will help game play during this beta test.

In general it will behoove you to avoid signing players to contracts and then releasing them later to make room for a free agents.

TambaBerry · 05-27-2013, 05:22 PM

When do we need all players signed?

**cdcox** · 05-27-2013, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tambaberry

When do we need all players signed?

Sunday June 9.

Ebolapox · 05-27-2013, 09:07 PM

is it down for anybody else?

**cdcox** · 05-27-2013, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ebolapox

is it down for anybody else?

Yeah, I' doing the work needed to get the correct list of free agents to show. I'll bring it up again for a while, but the list isn't quite correct yet. I'm going to have to take it down one more time for about 5 minutes.

**Rain Man** · 05-27-2013, 09:18 PM

Just so everyone knows:

1. You can't bid more points that you have even if they are spread over multiple players.
2. You can't rescind bids. If you change your mind you have to hope someone else will come along and take you off the hook.

So consider your bids carefully. You can't jerk around NFL players.

DJ's left nut · 05-27-2013, 09:20 PM

Is there going to be inflation in the price of players salaries?

I only ask because I can see very little utility in locking up guys long term if they're already on your team. What's the upshot? Why not just lock them all in on cheap 1-year deals as we clearly seem to have the ability to do? There's not even a great deal of benefit in using up cap space if you can roll over the unused space.

I just feel like there has to be something I'm missing here.

MagicHef · 05-27-2013, 09:21 PM

Why is Brandon Marshall both on my roster and listed as a free agent?

DJ's left nut · 05-27-2013, 09:27 PM

Oops...wrong thread. Whatever - same question though.

**Rain Man** · 05-27-2013, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Why is Brandon Marshall both on my roster and listed as a free agent?

We probably should be sure it's the same one. I think there was a late-round linebacker in the draft last year by that name.

**Rain Man** · 05-27-2013, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Is there going to be inflation in the price of players salaries?

I only ask because I can see very little utility in locking up guys long term if they're already on your team. What's the upshot? Why not just lock them all in on cheap 1-year deals as we clearly seem to have the ability to do? There's not even a great deal of benefit in using up cap space if you can roll over the unused space.

I just feel like there has to be something I'm missing here.

When a player's contract expires he goes out into the free agent pool. You have to either bid to get him back or you have to beat the bid by a margin sufficient to add a year to whatever offer he's already getting.

MagicHef · 05-27-2013, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

We probably should be sure it's the same one. I think there was a late-round linebacker in the draft last year by that name.

They both have WR as their position. That could be an error on the FA one, though.

TambaBerry · 05-27-2013, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Is there going to be inflation in the price of players salaries?

I only ask because I can see very little utility in locking up guys long term if they're already on your team. What's the upshot? Why not just lock them all in on cheap 1-year deals as we clearly seem to have the ability to do? There's not even a great deal of benefit in using up cap space if you can roll over the unused space.

I just feel like there has to be something I'm missing here.

Yes if you want to have those guys for only one year then you will have to pay insane amounts the next year for your good players. Think real life. Its easier to lock up your studs long term then to try to out pay every other team interested in him.

DJ's left nut · 05-27-2013, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

When a player's contract expires he goes out into the free agent pool. You have to either bid to get him back or you have to beat the bid by a margin sufficient to add a year to whatever offer he's already getting.

Okay...so how 'bout 2 years?

Can I extend him the year before he hits the market? At that point, why shouldn't I just give them all 2 year deals and next season, throw another 2 year deal the way of guys I really want to keep?

I feel like this can be gamed a little bit.

TambaBerry · 05-27-2013, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Okay...so how 'bout 2 years?

Can I extend him the year before he hits the market? At that point, why shouldn't I just give them all 2 year deals and next season, throw another 2 year deal his way.

I feel like this can be gamed a little bit.

from what i understand once you hit accept all contracts they are stuck until they become free agents.

edit: So if you put everyone at 2 years, your entire team will be free agents in two seasons and have to piece together everything

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