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Old 04-27-2018, 09:00 PM  
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Athletic linebackers like O'Daniel are earning high marks from NFL scouts because they need to cover the middle of the field in passing situations. ACC coaches recognized O'Daniel's talent in 2017, naming him second-team all-conference after he led the Tigers with 103 tackles, including 11.5 for loss and five sacks, as well as three pass breakups in 14 starts. One of the top outside linebacker recruits in the nation after an excellent high school career in the Washington, D.C. metro area (all-state in Maryland with 1,307 rushing yards, 18 touchdowns as senior, 16.5 tackles for loss, five sacks as junior). O'Daniel redshirted in 2013, and then got into the action regularly as a freshman, starting once and leading the team with 13 special teams tackles (had 31 total stops, sack) in 12 games played. He once again paced the team with 19 special teams stops in 2015, and was credited with 32 total tackles in 15 games as a reserve. Given a chance to play more on defense as a junior (10 starts in 15 games), O'Daniel used his quickness and tenacious nature to make 60 stops, 10 for loss, and 2.5 sacks.

What O'Daniel lacks in size and speed at the linebacker spot, he makes up for with production and consistency. He may not have the tools to become a quality full-time starter at linebacker, but his outstanding career as a special teams cover talent could be enough to earn him a roster spot and a place in the league for years to come.

Strengths
  • Madman on special teams
  • Finished career with 48 special teams tackles and most of them in kick coverage
  • Has a gift for playing past kick return blocks and maintaining focus on the returner
  • Technically sound as tackler
  • Sees what he hits and drives upper body into target while wrapping to finish
  • Possesses agility for lateral tackles against cutback runs
  • Hustles to contain against perimeter runs
  • Offers versatility
  • Played near the line and matched up on slot targets
  • Redirects routes with force
  • Reads and squeezes from zone
  • Finished 2017 with seven passes defensed including two pick-six interceptions

Weaknesses
  • Just one season as starter
  • Has the frame of a big safety, but is an average athlete in space
  • Is a little sluggish in his directional change and needs a runway to get accelerate to top speed
  • Pursuit speed is below par
  • Often blocked by smaller slot players against spread rushing attacks
  • Needs to prove he can beat blocks near the line of scrimmage on next level
  • Gives up separation when matched in man coverage
  • Plays upright and needs to do better job of anticipating routes




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Old 10-25-2018, 01:53 PM   #286
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It took the Chiefs trading away Alex Smith for Reid to play Mahomes. I cannot see any damn reason Reid deserves any credit for Mahomes’s performance.
Edit: I thought that was an uncharacteristic post, glad I went back and read what you responded to.
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Old 10-25-2018, 03:31 PM   #287
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And he played zero snaps against New England...
So maybe he wasn't ready. I mean a rookie who missed TC should have been thrown to the wolves against the Brady Brunch. Or maybe Big Ben and Co.
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Old 10-25-2018, 03:36 PM   #288
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He's a rookie that missed most of training camp. It was always going to take a bit.
take a bit? This wasn't even an average defense. Scandrick and Lucas were inserted immediately, it was an huge oversight by Sutton for not playing O'Daniel
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Old 10-25-2018, 03:42 PM   #289
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take a bit? This wasn't even an average defense. Scandrick and Lucas were inserted immediately, it was an huge oversight by Sutton for not playing O'Daniel
If it was completely Sutton's decision. Andy probably has some say in who plays.
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Old 10-25-2018, 03:48 PM   #290
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If it was completely Sutton's decision. Andy probably has some say in who plays.
I am sure he has "some say", but I doubt he is going to meddle with that kind of thing. He probably has a lot of trust in Bob to make those mistakes alone.
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If it was completely Sutton's decision. Andy probably has some say in who plays.
Why would he care? He spends almost all the time we're on defense sitting with Mahomes. Doesn't even watch the field. You could line up 11 midgets from Tijuana and Reid wouldn't know it until the opponent scored.
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Old 10-25-2018, 04:03 PM   #292
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Why would he care? He spends almost all the time we're on defense sitting with Mahomes. Doesn't even watch the field. You could line up 11 midgets from Tijuana and Reid wouldn't know it until the opponent scored.
As if this team isn't entertaining enough.
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He's a rookie that missed most of training camp. It was always going to take a bit.
Clearly this. Chiefs Fan is always so ****ing impatient.
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take a bit? This wasn't even an average defense. Scandrick and Lucas were inserted immediately, it was an huge oversight by Sutton for not playing O'Daniel
Two veterans were ready to play earlier than a rookie? I’m shocked.
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Clearly this. Chiefs Fan is always so ****ing impatient.

Again,you're acting like we have a top 20 defense.

Sutton had Scandrick and Lucas immediately in the starting rotation.

Yet, O'Daniel only gets the nod because if the Terrance Smith injury?

That's lack of awareness with the talent that's on hand.
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Again,:you're acting like we have a top 20 defense.

Sutton had Scandrick and Lucas immediately in the starting rotation.

Yet, O'Daniel only gets the nod because if the Terrance Smith injury?

That's lack of awareness with the talent that's on hand.
Being patient to the point of preparedness somehow equates to to an arbitrary defensive ranking? That doesn’t make any sense at all.
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Being patient to the point of preparedness somehow equates to to an arbitrary defensive ranking? That doesn’t make any sense at all.

Being patient? We arguably have the worst of defense in the NFL.

How can it get worse at the LB position with the coverage and run defense failure.
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Old 10-25-2018, 04:19 PM   #298
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As if this team isn't entertaining enough.
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Being patient? We arguably have the worst of defense in the NFL.

How can it get worse at the LB position with the coverage and run defense failure.
When players show they can play, they play. See: nnadi, Derrick.
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When players show they can play, they play. See: nnadi, Derrick.

LOL, this falls in line that you believe that Sutton knows readiness of players.

Yet, he's either blind or incompetent not recognizing talent present on and off the field.

I'm passive with alot of opinions, but this type of contrast in production and efficiency by replacing a single player with another that's been on the team is idiotic to hold back.
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