College Tuition is ****ed Up....

[recxjake]

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[stlchiefs]

True, everyone in college understands the element of choosing the right professor. Sometimes the easy A is the best route to getting through a class, sometimes the hard azz teacher turns out to be a great experience.

That said, anyone who tries to blame their failures on another person is just a whiny bitch. Nothing in life is fair or easy, but at least take responsibility for your own actions and don't try to pawn them off on the system.

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Just another example of how our College system is corrput and money hungry. The funniest part about college is you pay out the ass for someone in the end who can fail you.

That to me sounds like paying a mechanic to break your car. And then charge you more to fix it.

What gets me is kids who complain about the cost, but then don't put in enough time and effort to pass the class.

Higher education remains one of the best investments available. The difference between median income over 25 male worker with a BS degree ($50,916) holder is almost twice that of a HS grad ($28,763).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Househo..._United_States


For every $1 you spend on education, you can expect to earn over $30 back.

http://education.yahoo.com/college/f..._yourself.html

[petegz28]

Youc an always just claim you are an illegal alien, um I mean undocumented worker. The $'s willf all from the sky for you then

[recxjake]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan

my major required a 16 hour credit internship with ridiculous deadlines (april 20th or some crap for an august internship, when most companies don't start interviewing for that until the summer at the earliest)...anyways I had to pay KU for 16 course hours and pay all of the campus fees..PLUS an extra "higher learning" fee of $125, which made no sense to me whatsoever because all KU had to do was review my internship review and that probably took less then 30 minutes. so basically I paid about $3,500 to work for free. and I had a full time job all through school and paid for everything myself....that sucked a lot. working the internship 9-5 and then going to work 6-CL at that restaurant to pay bills

That blows....

I'm working M-Th 8 to 5 for Rudy.... then Friday, Sat and Sun at Lowe's 10 hours a day to pay for living expenses.... I shouldn't bitch though, a lot of people have it much harder then me.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by cdcox

What gets me is kids who complain about the cost, but then don't put in enough time and effort to pass the class.

Higher education remains one of the best investments available. The difference between median income over 25 male worker with a BS degree ($50,916) holder is almost twice that of a HS grad ($28,763).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Househo..._United_States


For every $1 you spend on education, you can expect to earn over $30 back.

http://education.yahoo.com/college/f..._yourself.html

And the biggest myth is that having a degree means you are educated. I work with plenty of college educated morons. Work with some very smart college people too.

The cost of college is so over blown it is pathetic. Then there is the whole "where you went to school" bs too.

Anyone ever ask you where you went to high school? Why not?

[recxjake]

Originally Posted by stlchiefs

True, everyone in college understands the element of choosing the right professor. Sometimes the easy A is the best route to getting through a class, sometimes the hard azz teacher turns out to be a great experience.

That said, anyone who tries to blame their failures on another person is just a whiny bitch. Nothing in life is fair or easy, but at least take responsibility for your own actions and don't try to pawn them off on the system.

well said....

[stlchiefs]

Originally Posted by recxjake

I'm taking 17 hours next semester and 17 in the spring of 08.... you can take a max of 18 hours.... so i would still end up 1 hour short.... I wish I would have done the math when I was a freshman taking 13 hours.

I don't know where you are going to school, but look into the possibility of taking more hours. I took a couple of 19 hour semesters. I know I had to requested permission to do this and maybe even pay an extra fee, but in the end it may be cheaper for you to do that than pay all the summer fees for 1 class. Just a thought.

[HolmeZz]

Are you allowed to get a government internship without being able to spell the word government?

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by recxjake

???

The "class" actually has a prof...... He's gettin a chunk of it

Maybe or maybe not. I'm on a 9 mo contract and will do at least 40 of work for the university this summer (not related to my research) without receiving a dime.

If we do recieve extra money for teaching a summer class, it is a not as large a chuck of the tuition as your example.

[recxjake]

Originally Posted by petegz28

And the biggest myth is that having a degree means you are educated. I work with plenty of college educated morons. Work with some very smart college people too.

The cost of college is so over blown it is pathetic. Then there is the whole "where you went to school" bs too.

Anyone ever ask you where you went to high school? Why not?

College degrees are a dime a dozen now... You have to go to grad school now to seperate yourself.

[Soupnazi]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Anyone ever ask you where you went to high school? Why not?

Ever been to St. Louis? That's all those fruits want to talk about. Seriously.

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by recxjake

To some extent... There are three different profs teaching a law class.... one is hardcore, one is in the middle, and one is easy.... of course my stuipd ass got in the hard one.... but on the transcript it will say introduction to law... nothing else... and my buddy that has easy prof is going to have an A, and I will have a B.... and he even admits that his class is much easier... we compared tests and writing assignments and grading....

A very important part of college is just registering for the right prof and TA's

Who learned more? Who got more for their money.

Your grades won't mean squat 5 year out, but your ability to learn will.

[stlchiefs]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Anyone ever ask you where you went to high school? Why not?

That's funny. I don't know if you've ever known people from St. Louis, but that is one of the first questions they ask people, especially another person from St. Louis. It's the weirdest damn thing, but where you went to HS is a big thing around here, especially the private school system.

I do agree with your other statements though. I know many college graduate "idiots" who I wouldn't trust to pump my gas. In the end it all comes down to proving yourself in the real world.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by recxjake

Yea, 3... it actually works out well because I will graduate on time now next May...... but 900 bucks is crazy...

I think $500 or so probably goes to a prof who gets to read my 5 page paper at the end of the year telling how many things I learned!

By my calculations I graded about 700 papers this year, and taught 3 courses, making a whopping 8000 for my efforts.

That would be an average of about 11.40 per paper if you consider me lecturing, grading homework, conducting conferences, and preparing lesson plans for free.

The lesson as always: you're a fucking idiot.

[recxjake]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Maybe or maybe not. I'm on a 9 mo contract and will do at least 40 of work for the university this summer (not related to my research) without receiving a dime.

If we do recieve extra money for teaching a summer class, it is a not as large a chuck of the tuition as your example.

The only reason I think he will get a big chunk is because he is the chair for the undergrad department of Poly Sci.... Even so, if he only gets a 100 bucks, it will be the easiest 100 he will ever make.