Chiefs Chiefs down to 3

Hog's Gone Fishin · 04-03-2013, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

Why would you do this?

Ummm. Because Johnny Manziel is the reason Joekel is even considered in the first 3 rounds.

And BTW , watch the Manziel Video, it will bring tears to your eyes. I'd trade all of this years picks for the opportunity to draft Manziel.

AussieChiefsFan · 04-03-2013, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

Ummm. Because Johnny Manziel is the reason Joekel is even considered in the first 3 rounds.

And BTW , watch the Manziel Video, it will bring tears to your eyes. I'd trade all of this years picks for the opportunity to draft Manziel.

Man I was just playin'

**Canofbier** · 04-03-2013, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

And BTW , watch the Manziel Video, it will bring tears to your eyes. I'd trade all of this years picks for the opportunity to draft Manziel.

Thank goodness you're not in charge, then.

**Mav** · 04-03-2013, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Canofbier

Thank goodness you're not in charge, then.

No shit lol.........I was thinking the same thing.

Turrible.

Messier · 04-03-2013, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

Ummm. Because Johnny Manziel is the reason Joekel is even considered in the first 3 rounds.

And BTW , watch the Manziel Video, it will bring tears to your eyes. I'd trade all of this years picks for the opportunity to draft Manziel.

I'm not a Joeckel fan, at all, but why is CP the only place I'm hearing how bad he is? He might be, and if we're taking a T I'd rather have Fisher. Its just that I can't find anyone outside CP that says things like, he's not even a first round talent. If you know of some share, because, and again, no LJ fan, but the anti Joeckel stuff comes off as the opposite to the pro Geno stuff. A mob reaction to being sick of hearing his name associated with the Chiefs.

suds79 · 04-03-2013, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier

I'm not a Joeckel fan, at all, but why is CP the only place I'm hearing how bad he is? He might be, and if we're taking a T I'd rather have Fisher. Its just that I can't find anyone outside CP that says things like, he's not even a first round talent. If you know of some share, because, and again, no LJ fan, but the anti Joeckel stuff comes off as the opposite to the pro Geno stuff. A mob reaction to being sick of hearing his name associated with the Chiefs.

A valid question. Truth be told, I'm sure he's a fine player. He wouldn't be rated as high as he is if he wasn't.

I think the anti Joeckel sentiment among this board (and my personal views also) are based on: (in no order)

- He's not a QB/Geno Smith. :P
- People think protecting the nimble Johnny football helped him look good.
- He looked slow & unathletic during the combine (particularly against all other LTs.) He tested worse than any of the previous top LT picks in year's past.
- And he looks like a 12 year old school boy (okay that one is mine)

For me personally it's just that I like Fisher better. I saw him absolutely dominate at the Senior bowl. He's bigger, stronger, faster. I'll take that.

Chiefshrink · 04-03-2013, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79

. Truth be told,

- He's not a QB/Geno Smith. :P

This 1,000,000x

Denial is always comfortable and reality most of the time SUCKS !!

NorthernWV · 04-03-2013, 08:13 AM

Same guy that wants Manziel probably wanted Tebow after his sophmore year too

**RealSNR** · 04-03-2013, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier

I'm not a Joeckel fan, at all, but why is CP the only place I'm hearing how bad he is? He might be, and if we're taking a T I'd rather have Fisher. Its just that I can't find anyone outside CP that says things like, he's not even a first round talent. If you know of some share, because, and again, no LJ fan, but the anti Joeckel stuff comes off as the opposite to the pro Geno stuff. A mob reaction to being sick of hearing his name associated with the Chiefs.

He's a first round talent. He might even be a top 10 selection. But he's not the best tackle in this draft. I don't even think he's the 2nd best tackle in this draft. And he's a ****ing embarrassment at the #1 overall pick.

Other sites don't bring that up because they have no emotional investment. They just go, "Eh... Alex Smith, take the best player. WHUPS THAT'S JOECKEL OKAY!"

**Canofbier** · 04-03-2013, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

He's a first round talent. He might even be a top 10 selection. But he's not the best tackle in this draft. I don't even think he's the 2nd best tackle in this draft. And he's a ****ing embarrassment at the #1 overall pick.

Other sites don't bring that up because they have no emotional investment. They just go, "Eh... Alex Smith, take the best player. WHUPS THAT'S JOECKEL OKAY!"

Agreed - if we're taking an OT at 1.1 (barf), then it had damn well better be the one with the potential to be the best in the league, and not the one that's "safe" with a relatively lower ceiling.

patteeu · 04-03-2013, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier

I'm not a Joeckel fan, at all, but why is CP the only place I'm hearing how bad he is? He might be, and if we're taking a T I'd rather have Fisher. Its just that I can't find anyone outside CP that says things like, he's not even a first round talent. If you know of some share, because, and again, no LJ fan, but the anti Joeckel stuff comes off as the opposite to the pro Geno stuff. A mob reaction to being sick of hearing his name associated with the Chiefs.

They're mostly the same people with the same irrational approach to football analysis/discussion.

**RealSNR** · 04-03-2013, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

They're mostly the same people with the same irrational approach to football analysis/discussion.

How about no, Scott

Sassy Squatch · 04-03-2013, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

How about no, Scott

Why is he bad in your opinion?

**RealSNR** · 04-03-2013, 08:24 AM

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Why is he bad in your opinion?

Watch him play. Eric Fisher blows up people, Luke Joeckel just re-directs pass rushers to the outside. One guy is an asshole, the other is a fat pig.

And to be quite honest, one of them is more conducive to an excellent RT than the other, and that needs to be our consideration going forward out of all this. 100%. Branden Albert is still on this team and if the Chiefs really are in "win now" mode, putting a rookie in at LT is a dumb idea. A seriously ****ing dumb idea.

It may only stay that way for a year, but in that time we need our RT to do RT things, and not play the way Joeckel does against the rush.

Sassy Squatch · 04-03-2013, 08:27 AM

I've always just kind of dismissed Joeckel on the fact that he's only blocked for Tannehil and Manziel.

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