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Old 02-19-2013, 03:47 PM   #1
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My favorite part about this thread - I couldn't remember if I had said this before so I went hunting and came upon this from February of 2011 when discussing what to do at 21:

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Yup, Kaepernick is the guy I want, especially with Zorn around now.

I know, it's a stupidy 'sexy' pick that fails more often than it succeeds. At the same time, that kid has every single tool you could ever want in a player. His teammates loved him and he has a damn cannon. With his mobility, size and strength, he's a wet dream if you can iron out the kinks.

And an interesting wrinkle to him that I'm coming up with on the fly here. There was a lot of interest in him as a pitcher going into college, correct? The throwing motion for a pitcher and a quarterback are two very different animals. In fact, the throwing motion for a pitcher and him in particular are very dissimilar. What that tells me is that his throwing motion as a quarterback is learned, rather than a product of raw biomechanics. I think Tebow throws the way he does because his body almost requires it, ditto a guy like Vince Young or Tim Lincecum. Sometimes your biomechanics dictate your throwing technique, I don't think that's the case with Kaepernick.

So I think you could really refine that quirky motion of his. His arm has shown that it's capable of slinging multiple types of balls using several different throwing motions. That tells me he can both change to a more conventional throwing style AND that, when a play goes to hell, even if he falls back to old habits on that play, the throw itself will still be decent as his arm has been conditioned to multiple angles.

Disclaimer: Every single thing I wrote above could be bullshit and has not been subject to any sort of testing, either empirical or even a PS3. I just really like the guy and I'm trying to come up with more reasons to like him.
I forgot I was on the Kaepernick train! That whole thread's kinda funny, what with Hootie sucking Ponder off and what not.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:53 PM   #2
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:54 PM   #3
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The Glennon GIF that keeps on giving.

That's a PERFECT example.

The ball comes out perfectly, has nice velocity and trajectory, and yet somehow it just ends up in the absolute WRONG place.
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:17 PM   #4
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That's a PERFECT example.

The ball comes out perfectly, has nice velocity and trajectory, and yet somehow it just ends up in the absolute WRONG place.
It can be coached. Glennon will be a fine QB.
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:24 PM   #5
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It can be coached. Glennon will be a fine QB.
You can believe whatever you want.
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:23 PM   #6
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:29 PM   #7
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Ask Haley, Weis, Zorn and Daboll.
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:48 AM   #8
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Matt Cassel is proof that accuracy CANNOT be coached.

Ask Haley, Weis, Zorn and Daboll.
I think he's more proof that arm strength can't be coached.
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:54 AM   #9
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I think he's more proof that arm strength can't be coached.
He didn't have either.
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:40 PM   #10
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:31 AM   #12
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Ultimately, the decision to draft Joeckel or Smith boils down to fundamental draft philosophy: draft for a need or draft the best player available?

The below article discussed the different directions KC can go in and provides some interesting food for thought:

downattheone.com/features

Should we draft for the future or gamble on a need?
Food for thought. Flynn got a 3 yr/$19.5M contract to sit on the bench. Luck got a 4/$22M as the #1 overall last year. This isn't the days of Bradford where he was going to get a ridiculous $50M guaranteed. You can afford to draft for a need b/c the financial commitment is so minimal.
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Old 02-22-2013, 08:19 AM   #13
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Food for thought. Flynn got a 3 yr/$19.5M contract to sit on the bench. Luck got a 4/$22M as the #1 overall last year. This isn't the days of Bradford where he was going to get a ridiculous $50M guaranteed. You can afford to draft for a need b/c the financial commitment is so minimal.
That's true, but there's an opportunity cost involved too. Your point is still a good one though.
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That's true, but there's an opportunity cost involved too.
Agree. But with this draft, none of the "opportunities" stand out notably more than the others. Joeckel isn't Orlando Pace (or even the consensus best LT in this draft). There's no Julius Peppers or Calvin Johnson.

I just don't see any of these other players as being a guy that we can't afford to pass on.
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Agree. But with this draft, none of the "opportunities" stand out notably more than the others. Joeckel isn't Orlando Pace (or even the consensus best LT in this draft). There's no Julius Peppers or Calvin Johnson.

I just don't see any of these other players as being a guy that we can't afford to pass on.
Why does this kind of thing always happen to my teams?
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