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Old 02-19-2013, 11:32 AM   #1
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FYI, I haven't posted 50 times in DC in in the last 3 years.

As for scouting, you are just wrong. It's *possible* that the difference between the top 5 QB's is marginal. And if you grade all of them as 2nd round players, then you are a terrible fool if you take one of them over an alternative player who you rate as the #1 overall player when you could get your #4 and #5 QB with your second pick.

Scouting that matters deeply.
Cool. That doesn't change the fact that you're an informed person when it comes to politics. I also suspect you felt that way about the last two Republican candidates. The point is, if you're going to be more impulsive about picking the president than you are about picking your favorite team's QB, I don't know what to tell you. Again, I'm not saying that voting strategy isn't legit. It is absolutely a rational reason for voting that way. And if it applies to the goddamned president, it should apply to something measly like the Chiefs QB.

And here we go again. You're using "ifs" to lend credence to your argument that drafting a QB might not be the best thing. However, those ifs are very unlikely. There IS a first round QB in this draft. I believe there are multiple, in fact, as do many draft analysts. Secondly, it's one thing to have a #1 overall non-QB that you select with the top pick. It's quite another to be in this draft where there ISN'T THAT PLAYER AROUND.

And DON'T tell me that I don't know that. It's looking pretty ****ing grim right now. Even an explosion out of the combine likely won't change that.

If the top nonQB in this draft is worth a 10 or a 15 pick most years (which is the case except for the OTs) and the highest rated QB is a 20 or late 20, you take the goddamned QB. When people ask if you reached too hard, you say, "It was the best pick for the team."

Because guess what? IT WAS.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:22 AM   #2
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Matt Cassel also led to the Tyson Jackson pick. Had we used it on a QB, we would have had the #34 pick, which could have been something pretty good. At least it would have been something better than Jackson.

So no. Looking back, the Cassel deal in hindsight was WORSE than drafting Sanchez. Much worse.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:41 AM   #3
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:03 PM   #4
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Recently bought a Roku, and they have a CBS sports channel on it. The most recent clip on it was from Pat Kirwin. I don't know much about him, but he seems like the only journalist who makes ANY sense.
He says: Don't listen to any reports coming from anyone. When all is said and done, Geno will go #1, 2 QBs will go in the top 10, and there is no way a G will be taken in the top 10.
He made some other good points, and I think he's right. All these reports...all of them..are useless.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:09 PM   #5
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Recently bought a Roku, and they have a CBS sports channel on it. The most recent clip on it was from Pat Kirwin. I don't know much about him, but he seems like the only journalist who makes ANY sense.
He says: Don't listen to any reports coming from anyone. When all is said and done, Geno will go #1, 2 QBs will go in the top 10, and there is no way a G will be taken in the top 10.
He made some other good points, and I think he's right. All these reports...all of them..are useless.
Can you screen capture or record audio?
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:37 PM   #6
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Can you screen capture or record audio?
Just got over a HD failure with no sys image.
Have my programs backed up, but won't have my software back up for cpl weeks. Ive just been using my laptop.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:09 PM   #7
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Recently bought a Roku, and they have a CBS sports channel on it. The most recent clip on it was from Pat Kirwin. I don't know much about him, but he seems like the only journalist who makes ANY sense.
He says: Don't listen to any reports coming from anyone. When all is said and done, Geno will go #1, 2 QBs will go in the top 10, and there is no way a G will be taken in the top 10.
He made some other good points, and I think he's right. All these reports...all of them..are useless.
He has has a show on NFL Radio on Sirius/XM that he does Tim Ryan called Movin' the Chains. Generally it's one of the best football shows you'll ever listen to.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:06 PM   #8
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Recently bought a Roku, and they have a CBS sports channel on it. The most recent clip on it was from Pat Kirwin. I don't know much about him, but he seems like the only journalist who makes ANY sense.
He says: Don't listen to any reports coming from anyone. When all is said and done, Geno will go #1, 2 QBs will go in the top 10, and there is no way a G will be taken in the top 10.
He made some other good points, and I think he's right. All these reports...all of them..are useless.
He's a former NFL scout and Front office guy. He generally knows what he's talking about
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:34 PM   #9
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Recently bought a Roku, and they have a CBS sports channel on it. The most recent clip on it was from Pat Kirwin. I don't know much about him, but he seems like the only journalist who makes ANY sense.
He says: Don't listen to any reports coming from anyone. When all is said and done, Geno will go #1, 2 QBs will go in the top 10, and there is no way a G will be taken in the top 10.
He made some other good points, and I think he's right. All these reports...all of them..are useless.
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He's a former NFL scout and Front office guy. He generally knows what he's talking about
I heard a guy (don't recall his name) from Ourlads on the radio the other day saying that he had Geno Smith #1 on his board.

Edit: I'm sure others have already seen it, but anyway...
http://www.ourlads.com/nfl-mock-draft/2013/
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:42 PM   #10
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I heard a guy (don't recall his name) from Ourlads on the radio the other day saying that he had Geno Smith #1 on his board.

Edit: I'm sure others have already seen it, but anyway...
http://www.ourlads.com/nfl-mock-draft/2013/
The only part of that mock that I question is Joeckel to the Jags at #2.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:10 PM   #11
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I can't wait for the damned draft so this speculation can be over and we can talk in realities of what we have.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:19 PM   #12
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I can't wait for the damned draft so this speculation can be over and we can talk in realities of what we have.
I'm about to that point too.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:26 PM   #13
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I can't wait for the damned draft so this speculation can be over and we can talk in realities of what we have.
I fully speculate that we will trade back to pick 4 while aquiring 4 1st round picks take Joekill, move Albert to guard and then get Geno at the top of the 2nd. Then trade a future 1st for Alex Smith to be our backup.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:32 PM   #14
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I fully speculate that we will trade back to pick 4 while aquiring 4 1st round picks take Joekill, move Albert to guard and then get Geno at the top of the 2nd. Then trade a future 1st for Alex Smith to be our backup.
Holy shit. That's like Dream Scenario #1.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:34 PM   #15
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I fully speculate that we will trade back to pick 4 while aquiring 4 1st round picks take Joekill, move Albert to guard and then get Geno at the top of the 2nd. Then trade a future 1st for Alex Smith to be our backup.
Nice thought. But unfortunately no nfl team is stupid enough to believe these jackasses that none of the qbs in the draft aren't worth taking in the 1st round. They will all be scooped up. If kc misses the boat then they were just stupid.
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