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Old 01-16-2013, 02:23 PM   #1
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**** blind loyalty.

Thats what we just got out from under.
I think it was more like blind stupidity.
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:10 PM   #2
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You know just **** the QB position. They are only a myth. You know there will never be one worthy of anything. They can't win anything. Just **** Flacco, Rodgers, Bradford, Stafford, or any of them. They all suck in their own right. Manning is a choker, Brady can't win the big one anymore. You know they are not a sure thing. They can't or won't win anything. Whether it is because of their talent level or the coach. RGIII is broke and won't be any good anymore. Luck that guy wouldn't have been any good this year if it wasn't for ChuckStrong.


Come the **** on guys. Geez this is all ridiculous.
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if only people thought Geno was the best QB and #1 pick in the draft...
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:31 PM   #4
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if only people thought Geno was the best QB and #1 pick in the draft...
Well, it is only 25 mocks. It's not like it's all of them or something.
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I like Geno, I like Wilson, I actually like Barkley. Glennon is a little meh to me at this point. Hell, I even think Landry Jones has some upside.


I know this is the wrong way to think about it, but I really just want them to evaluate who the best guy is and take him at 1. Seeing all these other teams draft QB's high and succeed, yeah, I'm a little jealous.

I'd rather us take a QB and him bust, than take a DL or OT and him be ok but really just meh.

It's a stupid way to think about it, and it's wrong, but damn it, you gotta try to get that guy or you can't win. So just take your top QB. If they draft Geno, or Wilson at 1 and he busts, fine.
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:41 PM   #6
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I'd rather us take a QB and him bust, than take a DL or OT and him be ok but really just meh.

It's a stupid way to think about it, and it's wrong, but damn it, you gotta try to get that guy or you can't win. So just take your top QB. If they draft Geno, or Wilson at 1 and he busts, fine.
It's evident that Dorsey and Reid will disagree. I don't think they take a QB at #1 overall unless they're certain he'll be a solid NFL QB.

If there's a bust factor, they'll pass. They've both already alluded to that publicly.
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:43 PM   #7
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It's evident that Dorsey and Reid will disagree. I don't think they take a QB at #1 overall unless they're certain he'll be a solid NFL QB.

If there's a bust factor, they'll pass. They've both already alluded to that publicly.
Oh, I'm positive they will.


I'm just saying form my perspective, a little part of me just wants to draft a Qb in the first round. If he busts, **** it, I've lived thru DL bust after DL bust. I'll deal with it.

Like I said, its a stupid way to look at it.

Also, there is gonna be a bust factor with whoever they pick.
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:50 PM   #8
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Oh, I'm positive they will.


I'm just saying form my perspective, a little part of me just wants to draft a Qb in the first round. If he busts, **** it, I've lived thru DL bust after DL bust. I'll deal with it.

Like I said, its a stupid way to look at it.

Also, there is gonna be a bust factor with whoever they pick.
This.

I can't remember the last time someone said, "Man, if we DONT take that DT, it will set our franchise back for years", or "man, see that LT right there, if we don't take him this year, we blew our opportunity to land a potentially great one".

How often do you regret not taking a LT vs how often you regret not taking a QB?

The QB is worth the risk, even if he does grade out lower than the DT, because the reward is far higher.
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This.

I can't remember the last time someone said, "Man, if we DONT take that DT, it will set our franchise back for years", or "man, see that LT right there, if we don't take him this year, we blew our opportunity to land a potentially great one".

How often do you regret not taking a LT vs how often you regret not taking a QB?

The QB is worth the risk, even if he does grade out lower than the DT, because the reward is far higher.
Well, thats the way we fans view it, I doubt the GM and HC do.
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:43 PM   #10
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Kiper and McShay and a lot of the "experts" that are out there right now are guilty of the same sin: Underestimating how much positional value QBs have in today's NFL.

I just laugh when I see things projecting no more than 1-2 QBs taken in the first. That's just not going to happen, not with this many teams with great needs.

KC @ 1
Jax @2 (AND 33, for Chiefs' purposes)
Oakland @3
Philadelphia @4
Arizona @7
Buffalo @8
Jets @ 9

And that's just teams with "need." It doesn't take into account any teams with good but aging or declining QBs (New Orleans @15, San Diego @11, Denver @28) or that Baltimore might lose Flacco in FA and Houston might nab a young, high-upside guy to push Schaub.

To suggest that no Qbs are worth a first-round grade or that only 1-2 will go in the first round is just silly and disregards reality.
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Kiper and McShay and a lot of the "experts" that are out there right now are guilty of the same sin: Underestimating how much positional value QBs have in today's NFL.

I just laugh when I see things projecting no more than 1-2 QBs taken in the first. That's just not going to happen, not with this many teams with great needs.

KC @ 1
Jax @2 (AND 33, for Chiefs' purposes)
Oakland @3
Philadelphia @4
Arizona @7
Buffalo @8
Jets @ 9

And that's just teams with "need." It doesn't take into account any teams with good but aging or declining QBs (New Orleans @15, San Diego @11, Denver @28) or that Baltimore might lose Flacco in FA and Houston might nab a young, high-upside guy to push Schaub.

To suggest that no Qbs are worth a first-round grade or that only 1-2 will go in the first round is just silly and disregards reality.
Thats one team I hadn't really thought of.


If one of these guys start falling, Houston might just say hell with it and take one ala Rodgers in GB.
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Thats one team I hadn't really thought of.


If one of these guys start falling, Houston might just say hell with it and take one ala Rodgers in GB.
I wonder if they'd take Barkley if he fell that far.
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I wonder if they'd take Barkley if he fell that far.
Dunno. Maybe.
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Dunno. Maybe.
They'd think long and hard about it IMO.
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Thats one team I hadn't really thought of.


If one of these guys start falling, Houston might just say hell with it and take one ala Rodgers in GB.
Don't forget the Steelers either. Their backups are in bad. Roethlisberger is not getting any younger.
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