Enough already! What's the deal with Sutton?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by ILChief

When we the last time the Chiefs fired an offensive or defensive coordinator? I know we have fired head coaches which changed coordinators, but when was the last time we kept the same head coach and that coach fired an OC or DC? Was it vermeil axing Robinson?

Depending on who you believe about whether someone left or got fired. There are plenty during the haley years. Pendergast, Weis, Bill Muir. Before that, Solari was fired by herm and replaced with Chan Gailey.

[Hammock Parties]

The Chiefs aren't stupid.

An unbiased, objective viewpoint of the situation says:

1. The Chiefs won games for four years because their defense was remarkably good at preventing the opponent from scoring while forcing turnovers.

2. The Chiefs allowed 18.3 PPG over their last 8 games.

3. The Chiefs defense was a HUGE catalyst in getting this team into the playoffs.

4. Allowing 22 points in a playoff game is not a fireable offense.

Bob will be back.

[PHOG]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The Chiefs aren't stupid.

An unbiased, objective viewpoint of the situation says:

1. The Chiefs won games for four years because their defense was remarkably good at preventing the opponent from scoring while forcing turnovers.

2. The Chiefs allowed 18.3 PPG over their last 8 games.

3. The Chiefs defense was a HUGE catalyst in getting this team into the playoffs.

4. Allowing 22 points in a playoff game is not a fireable offense.

Bob will be back.

No, hope not.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The Chiefs aren't stupid.

An unbiased, objective viewpoint of the situation says:

1. The Chiefs won games for four years because their defense was remarkably good at preventing the opponent from scoring while forcing turnovers.

2. The Chiefs allowed 18.3 PPG over their last 8 games.

3. The Chiefs defense was a HUGE catalyst in getting this team into the playoffs.

4. Allowing 22 points in a playoff game is not a fireable offense.

Bob will be back.

2 of the 4 worst choke jobs in playoff history.

[Priest31kc]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The Chiefs aren't stupid.

An unbiased, objective viewpoint of the situation says:

1. The Chiefs won games for four years because their defense was remarkably good at preventing the opponent from scoring while forcing turnovers.

2. The Chiefs allowed 18.3 PPG over their last 8 games.

3. The Chiefs defense was a HUGE catalyst in getting this team into the playoffs.

4. Allowing 22 points in a playoff game is not a fireable offense.

Bob will be back.

Yep.

I wanted a change from Bob, just start fresh with a whole new era on both sides, but it should be clear now that Sutton is staying.

I think Reid is giving Sutton one more year to prove he can get this D back on track. If he can, he'll be back again, if not, Reid will hopefully make the change next year.

Probably want to give him some new talent to work with as well as getting Berry back and see what he can do.

If they play like they did over the last 8 games, we will win alot of games next year.

[PHOG]

Originally Posted by Priest31kc

Yep.



I think Reid is giving Sutton one more year to prove he can get this D back on track. If he can, he'll be back again, if not, Reid will hopefully make the change next year.

If he is, then he (Reid) should be fired now.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by Priest31kc

Yep.

I wanted a change from Bob, just start fresh with a whole new era on both sides, but it should be clear now that Sutton is staying.

I think Reid is giving Sutton one more year to prove he can get this D back on track. If he can, he'll be back again, if not, Reid will hopefully make the change next year.

Probably want to give him some new talent to work with as well as getting Berry back and see what he can do.

If they play like they did over the last 8 games, we will win alot of games next year.

Yeah. Allowing a running back over 150 yards, and giving up over 200 rushing yards total when everyone in the world knows they are going to run. Great defense.

I swear half this fanbase are legally blind.

[Priest31kc]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Yeah. Allowing a running back over 150 yards, and giving up over 200 rushing yards total when everyone in the world knows they are going to run. Great defense.

I swear half this fanbase are legally blind.

Lol. I said I wanted a fresh start from Bob dipshit. Although I can see why they would keep him another year because his defenses were the main reason for our success the previous 4 years.

And I was just stating what I think Reid is going to do. Are you legally blind?

[JakeF]

Originally Posted by Priest31kc

Yep.

I wanted a change from Bob, just start fresh with a whole new era on both sides, but it should be clear now that Sutton is staying.

I think Reid is giving Sutton one more year to prove he can get this D back on track. If he can, he'll be back again, if not, Reid will hopefully make the change next year.

Probably want to give him some new talent to work with as well as getting Berry back and see what he can do.

If they play like they did over the last 8 games, we will win alot of games next year.

No, he's not. Reid isn't going to fire Sutton next year either.

[Best22]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The Chiefs aren't stupid.

An unbiased, objective viewpoint of the situation says:

1. The Chiefs won games for four years because their defense was remarkably good at preventing the opponent from scoring while forcing turnovers.

2. The Chiefs allowed 18.3 PPG over their last 8 games.

3. The Chiefs defense was a HUGE catalyst in getting this team into the playoffs.

4. Allowing 22 points in a playoff game is not a fireable offense.

Bob will be back.

It's all meaningless when they can't perform in the playoffs

I hold them to the same standards I hold Alex Smith. 11-5 is nice but what does it get us in January?

Only good performance by the defense in the playoffs was the Texans/Hoyer game

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Best22

It's all meaningless when they can't perform in the playoffs

I hold them to the same standards I hold Alex Smith.

...why?

They are a mediocre defense that lacks talent.

Allowing 22 points was a miracle. And 10 of them came on a fluke play and a bad call.

Holding the Steelers to all field goals was a commendable performance, too, that should have resulted in a W.

Ya'll trying to make this a 2003 Chiefs defense situation and it just isn't. Not even close.

[Best22]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

...why?

They are a mediocre defense that lacks talent.

Allowing 22 points was a miracle.

Holding the Steelers to all field goals was a commendable performance, too, that should have resulted in a W.

Ya'll trying to make this a 2003 Chiefs defense situation and it just isn't. Not even close.

The Titans drove up and down the field in the first half. We got bailed out by drops and poor Tennessee route running. Second half was predictable assuming that Tennessee fix its miscues, which they did

The Steelers game was a joke . We were lucky to be close. Horrible play calling from Haley kept that game close. One punt?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Best22

The Titans drove up and down the field in the first half. We got bailed out by drops and poor Tennessee route running. Second half was predictable assuming that Tennessee fix its miscues, which they did

The Steelers game was a joke . We were lucky to be close. Horrible play calling from Haley kept that game close. One punt?

You are trying to find reasons to blame a defense that got the team to 12-4 playing the same style of ball.

The offense failed in that game. Not the defense. Period.

This is all misguided anger because people are still mad about the Jets and Raiders games.

This defense is viewed a lot differently if the offense had held up it's end of the bargain in three games the D had presented on a silver platter for a W.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

...why?

They are a mediocre defense that lacks talent.

Allowing 22 points was a miracle. And 10 of them came on a fluke play and a bad call.

Holding the Steelers to all field goals was a commendable performance, too, that should have resulted in a W.

Ya'll trying to make this a 2003 Chiefs defense situation and it just isn't. Not even close.

This unit actually allowed more yards than they did. Oh yeah, 2 of the 4 worst choke jobs in playoff history.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The Chiefs aren't stupid.

An unbiased, objective viewpoint of the situation says:

1. The Chiefs won games for four years because their defense was remarkably good at preventing the opponent from scoring while forcing turnovers.

2. The Chiefs allowed 18.3 PPG over their last 8 games.

3. The Chiefs defense was a HUGE catalyst in getting this team into the playoffs.

4. Allowing 22 points in a playoff game is not a fireable offense.

Bob will be back.

Those 18 points is top 5 in the NFL. Nearly 4 and a half years hovering around the top 5 in points.