Kaepernick pulls a Steve Bono

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And you have no idea who good of a passer he'll become because he's only appeared in less than a dozen games and with crap wide receivers to boot.

This is true but I think he could also end up like a Vick type player and his passing never really develop once the wheels slow down.

I personally think he takes a big step backwards this year. Teams will figure out a way to make him pass and if he cant do that consistently he is going to have issues and he showed a big propensity to turn the ball over.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

This is true but I think he could also end up like a Vick type player and his passing never really develop once the wheels slow down.

That's pure, unadulterated speculation.

Was Michael Vick 6'5, 240 pounds at age 23? Did Michael Vick just lead his team to the Super Bowl at age 23? Did Michael Vick throw for more than 1,800 yards, 10 TD's and 3 INT's in half a season, then lead his team to a Super Bowl?

The only comparison that should be made to Vick is skin color. Kaepernick is closer to Steve Young, although he's far more developed than Young. It took Young six years in the USFL and NFL to rival Kaepernick's half a season.

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I personally think he takes a big step backwards this year. Teams will figure out a way to make him pass and if he cant do that consistently he is going to have issues and he showed a big propensity to turn the ball over.

No way. If there's one team that can stop him, it's the Seattle Seahawks, because they have a truly elite defense. But teams aren't just going to make him look like Matt Cassel because game film exists. Game film existed last year and people couldn't stop him.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That's pure, unadulterated speculation.

Was Michael Vick 6'5, 240 pounds at age 23? Did Michael Vick just lead his team to the Super Bowl at age 23? Did Michael Vick throw for more than 1,800 yards, 10 TD's and 3 INT's in half a season, then lead his team to a Super Bowl?

Not speculation, Kap is going to turn the ball over, wait and see.

I also find it interesting that the 49ers defense "led" the team to within 1 play of the SB but Kap "led" the team to the SB last year with that same if not better defense.

I know dude is mega talented no denying it but he just about ****ed himself into a corner before they made the SB and then probably cost them the SB.

Rather than compare him to Vick I would say he is more Cam Newton like. Not sure what the ceiling is there.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Not speculation, Kap is going to turn the ball over, wait and see.

That's not speculation? Good God, have you lost your mind?

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I also find it interesting that the 49ers defense "led" the team to within 1 play of the SB but Kap "led" the team to the SB last year with that same if not better defense.

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

I know dude is mega talented no denying it but he just about ****ed himself into a corner before they made the SB and then probably cost them the SB.

What? Almost cost them the Super Bowl? Your football acumen, seriously, it like a 2 on a scale of 100.

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Rather than compare him to Vick I would say he is more Cam Newton like. Not sure what the ceiling is there.

The crazy thing is that Cam Newton hasn't even begun to reach his potential because like Kaep, he's had exactly ONE wide receiver, a broken down 32 year old, no TE, broken RB's and a bad head coach.

Yet, he's still provided 40 TD's through the air and another 22 TD's on the ground. If he played for Baltimore, they'd go 19-0. If he played for Seattle, they'd go 19-0. Instead, he plays for a shit team that's gone 7-9 in consecutive seasons.

His ceiling is so high it can't be seen.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That's not speculation? Good God, have you lost your mind?



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What? Almost cost them the Super Bowl? Your football acumen, seriously, it like a 2 on a scale of 100.







The crazy thing is that Cam Newton hasn't even begun to reach his potential because like Kaep, he's had exactly ONE wide receiver, a broken down 32 year old, no TE, broken RB's and a bad head coach.

Yet, he's still provided 40 TD's through the air and another 22 TD's on the ground. If he played for Baltimore, they'd go 19-0. If he played for Seattle, they'd go 19-0. Instead, he plays for a shit team that's gone 7-9 in consecutive seasons.

His ceiling is so high it can't be seen.

Since when are pick 6's good for winning games?

I was reffering to 2011 vs 2012 Niners. One team was led by the defense and magically the other was led by KAp. You understand that or are intentionally being obtuse.

I dont believe Cam Newton will ever sniff a SB.

Talent is huge, but the QB position is also very mental and I dont think Cam Newton and Kap will prepare or take it as seriously as Steve Young for example. I think they believe their talent will be enough.

Its not about race either, I think Warren Moon was a phenomenal QB.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Talent is huge, but the QB position is also very mental and I dont think Cam Newton and Kap will prepare or take it as seriously as Steve Young for example. I think they believe their talent will be enough.

You could end up being right, but Kaep hasn't done anything to suggest he won't prepare like the best of them. His work ethic was said to be very strong prior to being drafted and since.

Opinions on wearing the Dolphins hat can understandably vary... but much of what you have been saying is speculation. That's fine, as long as you accept it as just that.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Since when are pick 6's good for winning games?

I was reffering to 2011 vs 2012 Niners. One team was led by the defense and magically the other was led by KAp. You understand that or are intentionally being obtuse.

I dont believe Cam Newton will ever sniff a SB.

Talent is huge, but the QB position is also very mental and I dont think Cam Newton and Kap will prepare or take it as seriously as Steve Young for example. I think they believe their talent will be enough.

Its not about race either, I think Warren Moon was a phenomenal QB.

More speculation. Let's hammer a 23 year old that broke existing rookie passing records because YOU happen to think he's dumb.

Your football I.Q. just went down a notch to 1 out of 100.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

More speculation. Let's hammer a 23 year old that broke existing rookie passing records because YOU happen to think he's dumb.

Your football I.Q. just went down a notch to 1 out of 100.

I don't need to be a football genius to know its stupid to wear another teams hat.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Its not about race either, I think Warren Moon was a phenomenal QB.

I've seen enough of your posts to know that it wasn't about race.

It's about the fact that you can't evaluate QB's worth a bag of dicks.