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Chiefnj · 10-21-2005, 07:36 AM

Section 1293. Intercollegiate and interscholastic football contest limitations:

The first sentence of section 1291 of this title shall not apply
to any joint agreement described in such section which permits the
telecasting of all or a substantial part of any professional
football game on any Friday after six o'clock postmeridian or on
any Saturday during the period beginning on the second Friday in
September and ending on the second Saturday in December in any year
from any telecasting station located within seventy-five miles of
the game site of any intercollegiate or interscholastic football
contest scheduled to be played on such a date if -
(1) such intercollegiate football contest is between
institutions of higher learning both of which confer degrees upon
students following completion of sufficient credit hours to equal
a four-year course, or
(2) in the case of an interscholastic football contest, such
contest is between secondary schools, both of which are
accredited or certified under the laws of the State or States in
which they are situated and offer courses continuing through the
twelfth grade of the standard school curriculum, or the
equivalent, and
(3) such intercollegiate or interscholastic football contest
and such game site were announced through publication in a
newspaper of general circulation prior to August 1 of such year
as being regularly scheduled for such day and place.

The question for all the CP attorneys, wannabe attorneys or folks who stayed at a Holiday Inn last night - why is it okay to show the game in the local market? Doesn't the local market have a highschool football game within 75 miles?

SCChief · 10-21-2005, 08:41 AM

Good grief... don't let Tags see this or he will cancel the game in the local markets as well. Hehehe.

Extra Point · 10-21-2005, 09:02 AM

Thank goodness we're not in Miami.

Amnorix · 10-21-2005, 09:51 AM

It probably isn't. The NFL here is probably engaging in a small, technical violation of the law in an effort to appease at least some fans. They do not, however, want to completely ignore the law, which si what they would do if they had a nationwide broadcast.

One interesting point raised by PFT was that satellite service may not fall within the 'broadcasting station . . . 75 miles" etc., language. The NFL is just being overly paranoid.

But yeah, probably they are engaging in at least a technical violation by showing it anywhere, at all.

I'll note that what I know about antitrust law, specifically, could fit into a thimble, more or less.

siberian khatru · 10-21-2005, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix

I'll note that what I know about antitrust law, specifically, could fit into a thimble, more or less.

And still leave room for your football knowledge.

BWAHAHAHA!!!

(sorry, couldn't resist)

Amnorix · 10-21-2005, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

And still leave room for your football knowledge.

BWAHAHAHA!!!

(sorry, couldn't resist)

Bastard!!!

chiefqueen · 10-21-2005, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj

The question for all the CP attorneys, wannabe attorneys or folks who stayed at a Holiday Inn last night - why is it okay to show the game in the local market? Doesn't the local market have a highschool football game within 75 miles?

Actually, there a high school within 7.5 blocks of KCTV5, Pembroke Hill. I don't know if Pem Hill is home tonight, though.

patteeu · 10-21-2005, 11:34 AM

I agree with Amnorix and I have no more (and probably less) expertise in this area than he does. They probably figure that they can get away with a minimal violation without anyone getting too uptight about it but don't want to tempt fate by completely ignoring it.

Calcountry · 10-21-2005, 11:37 AM

To honor the spirit of this rule, I will be attending my employee's game tonight at 7:30 pacific.

He has become like a "little brother" to me, since his step dad is hardly interested in the football. He was the guy I trained with in the offseason. They moved him from center last year to DE this year. He has a fumble recovery for a TD, some sacks, and is playing well at DE.

Not my kid, but I am proud of him just the same. If this somehow keeps him out of the gangs, then I have done my part.

10-21-2005, 11:40 AM

IF the NFL were truly worried about the HS and college games they would have never moved the Chiefs/Dolphins game to Friday night.

Their options would have been to move it KC or Saturday. The reason they moved it to Friday was that there is no power in the HS football "organization". The NCAA has a little more powerful voice, the NFL would not cross that line.

As I said before, the rule is self serving for the NFL, they don't actually give a crap about HS football.

Amnorix · 10-21-2005, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lipschitz

IF the NFL were truly worried about the HS and college games they would have never moved the Chiefs/Dolphins game to Friday night.

Their options would have been to move it KC or Saturday. The reason they moved it to Friday was that there is no power in the HS football "organization". The NCAA has a little more powerful voice, the NFL would not cross that line.

As I said before, the rule is self serving for the NFL, they don't actually give a crap about HS football.

Can't do Saturday either, in terms of a nationwide broadcast, without violating the antitrust exemption.

The rule is for the benefit of the NFL, in terms of giving them an exemption from antitrust, but it also puts limits on them that are not for the NFL's benefit. The limits are to ensure that the NFL doesn't try to compete with high school or college football.

Keep in mind -- the NFL "could" be like baseball, with one game every night of the week, shown on nationwide TV, 2 games on Saturday, and a something like 4 or whatever on Sunday. But that would mean they'd be taking attention away from college and HS football, and Congress didn't want that, so they put in the limit saying that they're exempt from antitrust SO LONG AS they're not competing with high school and college football.

It's that simple.

runnercyclist · 10-21-2005, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Can't do Saturday either, in terms of a nationwide broadcast, without violating the antitrust exemption.

The rule is for the benefit of the NFL, in terms of giving them an exemption from antitrust, but it also puts limits on them that are not for the NFL's benefit. The limits are to ensure that the NFL doesn't try to compete with high school or college football.

Keep in mind -- the NFL "could" be like baseball, with one game every night of the week, shown on nationwide TV, 2 games on Saturday, and a something like 4 or whatever on Sunday. But that would mean they'd be taking attention away from college and HS football, and Congress didn't want that, so they put in the limit saying that they're exempt from antitrust SO LONG AS they're not competing with high school and college football.

It's that simple.

Injunction!

Congressional Act.

I want my damn game!

Amnorix · 10-21-2005, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by runnercyclist

Injunction!

Congressional Act.

I want my damn game!

I'd agree with the Congressional Act. Namely, they should revise the rule to permit nationwide broadcasting where an "act of God" or the threat of an "act of God", has forced a change with respect to when a game is to be played.

Mr. Laz · 10-21-2005, 11:42 AM

what right does the FCC have in controlling what sporting events are shown where?

how is this a protection of the public

looks like the NCAA has paid the FCC off

Calcountry · 10-21-2005, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

what right does the FCC have in controlling what sporting events are shown where?

how is this a protection of the public

looks like the NCAA has paid the FCC off

Damn Bush administration, they should have fixed this. They don't care.

Sorry Laz, I just couldn't resist, please forgive me.

10-21-2005, 07:36 AM	Topic Starter
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	All you attorneys Section 1293. Intercollegiate and interscholastic football contest limitations: The first sentence of section 1291 of this title shall not apply to any joint agreement described in such section which permits the telecasting of all or a substantial part of any professional football game on any Friday after six o'clock postmeridian or on any Saturday during the period beginning on the second Friday in September and ending on the second Saturday in December in any year from any telecasting station located within seventy-five miles of the game site of any intercollegiate or interscholastic football contest scheduled to be played on such a date if - (1) such intercollegiate football contest is between institutions of higher learning both of which confer degrees upon students following completion of sufficient credit hours to equal a four-year course, or (2) in the case of an interscholastic football contest, such contest is between secondary schools, both of which are accredited or certified under the laws of the State or States in which they are situated and offer courses continuing through the twelfth grade of the standard school curriculum, or the equivalent, and (3) such intercollegiate or interscholastic football contest and such game site were announced through publication in a newspaper of general circulation prior to August 1 of such year as being regularly scheduled for such day and place. The question for all the CP attorneys, wannabe attorneys or folks who stayed at a Holiday Inn last night - why is it okay to show the game in the local market? Doesn't the local market have a highschool football game within 75 miles?
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10-21-2005, 09:51 AM	#4
Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	It probably isn't. The NFL here is probably engaging in a small, technical violation of the law in an effort to appease at least some fans. They do not, however, want to completely ignore the law, which si what they would do if they had a nationwide broadcast. One interesting point raised by PFT was that satellite service may not fall within the 'broadcasting station . . . 75 miles" etc., language. The NFL is just being overly paranoid. But yeah, probably they are engaging in at least a technical violation by showing it anywhere, at all. I'll note that what I know about antitrust law, specifically, could fit into a thimble, more or less. __________________ "I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington
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10-21-2005, 11:34 AM	#8
patteeu The 23rd Pillar Join Date: Sep 2002 Casino cash: $10019237	I agree with Amnorix and I have no more (and probably less) expertise in this area than he does. They probably figure that they can get away with a minimal violation without anyone getting too uptight about it but don't want to tempt fate by completely ignoring it. __________________ “Boy, you all want power. God, I hope you never get it.” - Lindsay Graham
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10-21-2005, 11:37 AM	#9
Calcountry Shoot the tube Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $8721645	To honor the spirit of this rule, I will be attending my employee's game tonight at 7:30 pacific. He has become like a "little brother" to me, since his step dad is hardly interested in the football. He was the guy I trained with in the offseason. They moved him from center last year to DE this year. He has a fumble recovery for a TD, some sacks, and is playing well at DE. Not my kid, but I am proud of him just the same. If this somehow keeps him out of the gangs, then I have done my part. __________________
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10-21-2005, 11:40 AM	#10
Lipschitz Guest Casino cash: $	IF the NFL were truly worried about the HS and college games they would have never moved the Chiefs/Dolphins game to Friday night. Their options would have been to move it KC or Saturday. The reason they moved it to Friday was that there is no power in the HS football "organization". The NCAA has a little more powerful voice, the NFL would not cross that line. As I said before, the rule is self serving for the NFL, they don't actually give a crap about HS football.
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10-21-2005, 11:42 AM	#14
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	what right does the FCC have in controlling what sporting events are shown where? how is this a protection of the public looks like the NCAA has paid the FCC off __________________
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