The Texans' Draft Dilemma

**Tribal Warfare** · 01-05-2006, 09:45 PM

The Texans are going to be have conundrum to solve if Vince Young declares his draft status. The reasoning there will be if they draft Vince they'll sell-out all their home games.Due to Youngs' great ability,and Vinces' Micheal Vick like excitability as a player. Thus could leave David Carr the odd man out.Here's the question I'm focusing on if Carr goes on the trading block would Carl give up a multiple picks to attain him, and that's excluding the first.Trent isn't getting any younger

jspchief · 01-05-2006, 09:50 PM

Drafting Young to sell tickets is a stupid move.

A year from now, if Young is no good, Texans fans aren't going to give a shit if he's from their state. Winning teams fill stands, not gimmicks. The Texans should draft the guy that's most likely to make their team better. Maybe they'll determine that's Young anyway, but if they are choosing players because of silly shit like that, they're in a world of trouble.

I don't think teams think that way anyway. It's just more bullshit to give the media rhetoric.

**Tribal Warfare** · 01-05-2006, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Drafting Young to sell tickets is a stupid move.

A year from now, if Young is no good, Texans fans aren't going to give a shit if he's from their state. Winning teams fill stands, not gimmicks. The Texans should draft the guy that's most likely to make their team better. Maybe they'll determine that's Young anyway, but if they are choosing players because of silly shit like that, they're in a world of trouble.

I don't think teams think that way anyway. It's just more bullshit to give the media rhetoric.

It has occured before with other lower tier organizations, I'm just covering all realms of possibility

**Bowser** · 01-05-2006, 10:01 PM

If the Texans draft anything other than an Offensive Tackle, they would deserve to be nuked.

ChiefsCountry · 01-05-2006, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

If the Texans draft anything other than an Offensive Tackle, they would deserve to be nuked.

I agree, they don't need a running back or quarterback. Build that line and get a offensive coach, then they could have a good team.

Brock · 01-05-2006, 10:00 PM

They might indeed draft Young, but I doubt he's any higher than a second round pick.

That throwing motion is going to give most teams something to think twice about.

**jAZ** · 01-06-2006, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

They might indeed draft Young, but I doubt he's any higher than a second round pick.

He's moved up to Keiper's top 5 overall. Unless something radically changes between now and the draft you're prediction will go down as one of the worst in the history of ChiefsPlanet. And that includes TJ's "2nd level burst" comment.

Logical · 01-06-2006, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jAZ

He's moved up to Keiper's top 5 overall. Unless something radically changes between now and the draft you're prediction will go down as one of the worst in the history of ChiefsPlanet. And that includes TJ's "2nd level burst" comment.

I predict whereever he is drafted, he will initially embraced like Vick but it will take even less time for people to realize he is not a good NFL QB. The fad is diminishing.

**jAZ** · 01-06-2006, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

I predict whereever he is drafted, he will initially embraced like Vick but it will take even less time for people to realize he is not a good NFL QB. The fad is diminishing.

That prediction could very well turn out to be spot on.

**Tribal Warfare** · 01-06-2006, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

I predict whereever he is drafted, he will initially embraced like Vick but it will take even less time for people to realize he is not a good NFL QB. The fad is diminishing.

I'm good at picking QB prospects Green,Pennington before he got hurt, Plummer has finally came around, and Marc Bulger.

I backed Green even when everyone was ridiculing on the BB, and look at him now. Mark my words Vince Young will be a great QB when it's said and done.

Brock · 01-06-2006, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jAZ

He's moved up to Keiper's top 5 overall. Unless something radically changes between now and the draft you're prediction will go down as one of the worst in the history of ChiefsPlanet. And that includes TJ's "2nd level burst" comment.

As of Dec 28, Kiper didn't even have Young in the TOP 25. I'm pretty sure NFL GMs aren't going to swallow the hype of one game like Kiper apparently has.

Feel free to save my prediction.

HolmeZz · 01-06-2006, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

As of Dec 28, Kiper didn't even have Young in the TOP 25. I'm pretty sure NFL GMs aren't going to swallow the hype of one game like Kiper apparently has.

Because Kiper doesn't rank underclassmen that might come back.

**jAZ** · 01-06-2006, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

As of Dec 28, Kiper didn't even have Young in the TOP 25. I'm pretty sure NFL GMs aren't going to swallow the hype of one game like Kiper apparently has.

Feel free to save my prediction.

Don't assume that's because he wasn't worthy of the top 25 all along in Keiper's mind. Keiper mentioned (on the Dan Patrick Show) that he didn't put him on his list officially because he was a jr. and hadn't declared his intention to go to the NFL. But unofficially he thinks he's would be the #3 or #4 ranked player in the draft this year.

I agree that the hype machine might spin down some and people might look at the mixed results of Vick and back off. I don't think for a minute he's going to drop to the 2nd round though. We'll hold on to your prediction and see.

Bug · 01-05-2006, 10:39 PM

Carr is likely to be cut. The team has the option to pick up his option for the next three years, or release him with no cap hit. I don't recall the exact numbers to pick up the remaining 3 years, but it's big, way too big. Every team in the NFL knows this. The Texans may restructure his contrtact after they hire a coach, maybe, but I think they will let him test the FA market.

BTW the Texans ARE desperate to put fans in the seats.

Al Saunders is talking like he wants to coach in Houston.

The Texans are in awe of the numbers the Chiefs offense puts up. It's all over their website, AND he interviewed to be the Texans coach when Capers got the job.

Vince Young is a potential game breaking toy.

Al Saunders loves his toys.

The Texans have a very good running back.

The Texans have a Pro-bowl kick returner.

The Texans have a better recieving corps than the Chiefs IMHO.

A lot has to happen, but then again, not that much.

Mecca · 01-05-2006, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bug

Carr is likely to be cut. The team has the option to pick up his option for the next three years, or release him with no cap hit. I don't recall the exact numbers to pick up the remaining 3 years, but it's big, way too big. Every team in the NFL knows this. The Texans may restructure his contrtact after they hire a coach, maybe, but I think they will let him test the FA market.

BTW the Texans ARE desperate to put fans in the seats.

Al Saunders is talking like he wants to coach in Houston.

The Texans are in awe of the numbers the Chiefs offense puts up. It's all over their website, AND he interviewed to be the Texans coach when Capers got the job.

Vince Young is a potential game breaking toy.

Al Saunders loves his toys.

The Texans have a very good running back.

The Texans have a Pro-bowl kick returner.

The Texans have a better recieving corps than the Chiefs IMHO.

A lot has to happen, but then again, not that much.

If Al Saunders goes to Houston, Vince Young isn't going to be there. Our offense is about a pocket QB making the throws, not a Micheal Vick type of player.

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Bug Starter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Houston, Tx Casino cash: $10004900	Carr is likely to be cut. The team has the option to pick up his option for the next three years, or release him with no cap hit. I don't recall the exact numbers to pick up the remaining 3 years, but it's big, way too big. Every team in the NFL knows this. The Texans may restructure his contrtact after they hire a coach, maybe, but I think they will let him test the FA market. BTW the Texans ARE desperate to put fans in the seats. Al Saunders is talking like he wants to coach in Houston. The Texans are in awe of the numbers the Chiefs offense puts up. It's all over their website, AND he interviewed to be the Texans coach when Capers got the job. Vince Young is a potential game breaking toy. Al Saunders loves his toys. The Texans have a very good running back. The Texans have a Pro-bowl kick returner. The Texans have a better recieving corps than the Chiefs IMHO. A lot has to happen, but then again, not that much. __________________ BBQ Cheerleaders Beer Are you ready for some FOOTBALL!!!!!
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