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Old 09-07-2016, 07:47 PM   Topic Starter
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iPhone 7. No headphone jack.

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Old 09-07-2016, 07:56 PM   #2
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Old 09-07-2016, 08:31 PM   #3
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Old 09-07-2016, 08:52 PM   #4
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Its annoying that we won't be able to use it as an auxiliary and charge it at the same time. Or that's what I'm assuming. My car right now doesn't have Bluetooth, but I should be upgrading this fall and that should solve that.
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Old 09-08-2016, 12:03 AM   #5
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Its annoying that we won't be able to use it as an auxiliary and charge it at the same time. Or that's what I'm assuming. My car right now doesn't have Bluetooth, but I should be upgrading this fall and that should solve that.
I use a Bluetooth radio adapter in my cars that don't have it. Works brilliantly.
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Old 09-07-2016, 09:05 PM   #6
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Old 09-07-2016, 09:05 PM   #7
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Meh. The adapter dingus is small, can just live on the end of my headphones, and is free with the phone. seems like a reasonable compromise for the thing to be waterproof.

We'll see long term though. We are talking about what's perhaps the single most universal electrical interface in the world. Even power plugs vary by region.
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Old 09-07-2016, 09:34 PM   #8
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Meh. The adapter dingus is small, can just live on the end of my headphones, and is free with the phone. seems like a reasonable compromise for the thing to be waterproof.

We'll see long term though. We are talking about what's perhaps the single most universal electrical interface in the world. Even power plugs vary by region.
The other thing that is concerning is Apple trying to move more of our tech to their solely owned proprietary W1 instead of what has become the norm, bluetooth.
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Old 09-07-2016, 09:53 PM   #9
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The other thing that is concerning is Apple trying to move more of our tech to their solely owned proprietary W1 instead of what has become the norm, bluetooth.
My understanding is that it's still bluetooth and they will work with anything...
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Old 09-08-2016, 07:30 PM   #10
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Meh. The adapter dingus is small, can just live on the end of my headphones, and is free with the phone. seems like a reasonable compromise for the thing to be waterproof.

We'll see long term though. We are talking about what's perhaps the single most universal electrical interface in the world. Even power plugs vary by region.
Except there are plenty of waterproof phones with headphone jacks.
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Old 09-09-2016, 12:07 AM   #11
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Except there are plenty of waterproof phones with headphone jacks.
It's not just about the water resistance.

"When the headphone jack was removed, Apple realized it was easier to install the new Taptic Engine for the pressure-sensitive Home button, implement a bigger battery, and reach an IP7 water resistance rating, so the elimination of the headphone jack became essential for all of the other features in the iPhone 7. "
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Old 09-09-2016, 08:42 AM   #12
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It's not just about the water resistance.

"When the headphone jack was removed, Apple realized it was easier to install the new Taptic Engine for the pressure-sensitive Home button, implement a bigger battery, and reach an IP7 water resistance rating, so the elimination of the headphone jack became essential for all of the other features in the iPhone 7. "
This is a general criticism about the industry rather than Apple specifically, but...

If they wanted a bigger battery, why not just let the phone be a little thicker? It's so thin that the camera has to stick out from the back (again, other phones have the same issue). Battery is my #1 biggest complaint about smartphones, and I'd LOVE for someone to just make a phone that is a tiny bit thicker but has solid battery life.

I can't speak to the impact of a pressure-sensitive button I guess. Seems like it's not so big of a feature that it would trump "compatible with the most ubiquitous plug in existence," but I guess time will tell how useful it is.
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Old 09-09-2016, 04:41 PM   #13
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This is a general criticism about the industry rather than Apple specifically, but...

If they wanted a bigger battery, why not just let the phone be a little thicker? It's so thin that the camera has to stick out from the back (again, other phones have the same issue). Battery is my #1 biggest complaint about smartphones, and I'd LOVE for someone to just make a phone that is a tiny bit thicker but has solid battery life.
This one drives me crazy too. I don't really need my phone to be 10 times thinner than my wallet.
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This is a general criticism about the industry rather than Apple specifically, but...

If they wanted a bigger battery, why not just let the phone be a little thicker? It's so thin that the camera has to stick out from the back (again, other phones have the same issue). Battery is my #1 biggest complaint about smartphones, and I'd LOVE for someone to just make a phone that is a tiny bit thicker but has solid battery life.

I can't speak to the impact of a pressure-sensitive button I guess. Seems like it's not so big of a feature that it would trump "compatible with the most ubiquitous plug in existence," but I guess time will tell how useful it is.
Yeah, I don't get it, either. I would prefer a thicker phone with a smaller screen, TBH.
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This seems more anti-consumer than anything. Interfacing your headphones wirelessly gives the companies more control. So instead of analog to listen to whatever music you happen to have, DRM can dictate whether to send the signal to the earphones or not. I see no upside to this, and phones have been waterproofed before and could still have a headphone jack.
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