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Old 01-14-2014, 08:54 AM  
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**** OFFICIAL 2013-2014 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread, Part 2 ****
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Old 02-09-2014, 12:03 PM   #1336
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And Artest went after a guy because they threw a drink at him. Pretty sure he got the wrong guy too.
I never held it against Artest because he's actually insane.
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Old 02-09-2014, 12:14 PM   #1337
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Why do you think it's hard to believe a bumpkin from BFE Texas said the N word?
First, there are black players on his own team and on the stands. You would think others around him would have gotten to him before Smart did if he said that. I'm not naive enough to say that that that would prevent all people from saying that, but I would hope that he didn't. I have no way of knowing what the guy said, I just hope he didn't say that. I said it was just my opinion. I guess we'll find out.
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Old 02-09-2014, 12:16 PM   #1338
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You'd have to not be living in the same world I am to not think it matters what was said. If this guy said a racial slur to him (as is being alleged), it completely changes how the situation is perceived and the level of outrage about it. Also notice how this has been the main point of contention in this thread and in the media.
He probably did. Not sure what else he would have said, "nice foul bitch"? Doesn't change the fact that every player goes into gyms where people say terrible things and they don't go into the stands and try to kick old dudes asses.

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Smart has been a top 3 player in the B12 by the numbers (KenPom ranks the top 5 as Embiid, Smart, Wiggins, Ejim, and Kane currently for reference) . He's going to be a top 10 pick in the NBA draft in about 5 months. And a few short months after that, he's going to be starting for a NBA team and making millions doing it. Fall from grace? By this time next year, this situation and his team's shitty season (which really isn't his fault at all, he's playing better than last year) will be long gone in everyone's minds beyond those who hold a grudge.
I'm not holding a grudge. He's a great player. He beat a really really good, consistent, defensively sound KU team almost by himself. That was an incredible performance. He is not that guy. He came back to get better. He's not. Yeah, he's got stats, but he's not that guy.

To think otherwise is being disingenuous at best.

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Jayhawk or not, I love him as a player regardless. I suspect he'll be one of my favorites in the league for years.
Last year he was one of mine too. He's not that guy.
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Old 02-09-2014, 12:31 PM   #1339
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Enough of Marcus Smart.

**** Will Spradling.
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Old 02-09-2014, 12:36 PM   #1340
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I'm trying to wait and hear some more details before forming an opinion. No matter what happens, I'd like to see all parties held responsible. Did anybody hear the PA announcer come on and say "Please refrain from throwing things on the floor" right after we saw Smart push the guy? Were there issues with things being thrown on the floor before the incident?
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Old 02-09-2014, 12:37 PM   #1341
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Enough of Marcus Smart.

**** Will Spradling.
We'll get to see plenty of him tomorrow night.
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Old 02-09-2014, 12:39 PM   #1342
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Enough of Marcus Smart.

**** Will Spradling.
Spradling has done nothing against KU for the most part. Hard for me to get wound up about him.

I just remember how cocky he was as a freshman prior to getting dismantled by Duke in KC. At this point it's pretty much just LOL Will Spradling.
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Old 02-09-2014, 12:41 PM   #1343
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He probably did. Not sure what else he would have said, "nice foul bitch"? Doesn't change the fact that every player goes into gyms where people say terrible things and they don't go into the stands and try to kick old dudes asses.
And nobody would say that's acceptable. But what was said does greatly change how the incident was perceived.

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I'm not holding a grudge. He's a great player. He beat a really really good, consistent, defensively sound KU team almost by himself. That was an incredible performance. He is not that guy. He came back to get better. He's not. Yeah, he's got stats, but he's not that guy.

To think otherwise is being disingenuous at best.
He's pretty much exactly the same guy. Contributing in all the same ways (even with flopping) at the same rates except with a higher level of offensive efficiency this year. The only difference is that his team is losing more often and the media narrative about him as changed as a result.


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Last year he was one of mine too. He's not that guy.
I know, he's actually been better.
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That's what I've been hearing. POS is lucky he's not in the hospital this morning.
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That's what I've been hearing. POS is lucky he's not in the hospital this morning.
That's not exactly what happened, though.

It's best to read this link because the Twitter stuff is all images, so it would be difficult to post here. Basically, Fox 4 is at the center of the Go Back to ------.

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And nobody would say that's acceptable. But what was said does greatly change how the incident was perceived.


He's pretty much exactly the same guy. Contributing in all the same ways (even with flopping) at the same rates except with a higher level of offensive efficiency this year. The only difference is that his team is losing more often and the media narrative about him as changed as a result.



I know, he's actually been better.

Agree to disagree. On all points.
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That's what I've been hearing. POS is lucky he's not in the hospital this morning.
I thought you were complaining about how violent our society has become?
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I thought you were complaining about how violent our society has become?
Smart showing restraint is a good step. I applaud him for not really becoming violent with this baffoon.
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