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**Tribal Warfare** · 02-25-2012, 01:06 AM

Chiefs plan to have competition for quarterback Cassel
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Of the players who served as a backup quarterback for the Chiefs the last three seasons, none could be considered a serious candidate to take Matt Cassel’s starting job.

General manager Scott Pioli said he couldn’t promise the Chiefs would find a more significant challenge for Cassel this year. But he indicated that if the Chiefs failed, it wouldn’t be for a lack of trying.

Just as it wasn’t, Pioli said, the last three seasons.

“The answer is yes, there’s going to be competition at quarterback,” Pioli said Thursday at the NFL scouting combine. “But that doesn’t make it different from any other year. That’s not different from the past.

“I don’t think we haven’t tried (to bring in competition for Cassel). Part of it was circumstances. When we traded for Matt, he was coming to a program that had two starting quarterbacks here already. It’s easy to sit here now and say, ‘You can’t say player X wasn’t competition.’ That’s not fair. Look at it in the snapshot of that place and time. It certainly appeared there was going to be competition.”

Tyler Thigpen and Brodie Croyle were the Chiefs’ quarterbacks when they traded for Cassel three years ago. Neither has been a productive player since leaving the Chiefs.

Matt Gutierrez, Tyler Palko, Ricky Stanzi and Kyle Orton have been quarterbacks who have come, and in some cases gone, since.

Stanzi, who was drafted last year, is the only Chiefs quarterback other than Cassel under contract for next season. Orton played in four games for the Chiefs last season after Cassel injured his hand and was lost for the year.

“Last year, free-agency never started (until training camp),” Pioli said. “We had Matt on the roster. We had Tyler on the roster. We had Ricky, who we drafted. We didn’t draft someone high who was perceived as competition, but I’ll say this: I think Ricky is competition. Let’s not get lost in where a guy was drafted as to whether or not he’s a player. This league has shown time and time again at many positions, including this particular position, that where a player is drafted doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with how good he is or how good he becomes.

“You just don’t wave a wand and magically say, ‘There’s competition.’ We drafted a quarterback last year who I truly believe has good ability and has the potential to start in this league. I really do believe that.”

With only Cassel and Stanzi signed for 2012, the Chiefs will add at least one quarterback and probably two before training camp starts in July. Veteran possibilities include Peyton Manning, if he’s released by Indianapolis.

Two other free-agent possibilities are Chad Henne, who played for Miami last year with new Chiefs offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, and Jason Campbell, who played two seasons for Washington under Jim Zorn, now the Chiefs’ quarterbacks coach.

“You don’t know what’s going to happen in free-agency and you don’t know what you’re going to be able to get done,” Pioli said. “Quarterback seems to be one of those positions where there’s pretty good ones, veteran guys who are cut and have outpriced their role.

“So you don’t know about quarterbacks (in free-agency). You can’t create a person out of nothing. Availability and circumstances are (key factors in acquiring a quarterback). You can only work with the pool of players you can work with even though you might have certain intentions.”

The draft is another option for the Chiefs to add a quarterback.

“My hope and strong desire is to draft a quarterback every single year,” Pioli said. “There’s great value in that. Last year I didn’t know if we were going to draft (a quarterback) in the first, second, third, fourth, fifth round, but we ended up drafting a guy who a number of us really like and really think can be a starter in the National Football League.”

One of Pioli’s first moves after joining the Chiefs three years ago was to trade for Cassel, who was coming off a strong season as a starter for New England. Cassel had a big season for the Chiefs in 2010, when he made the Pro Bowl.

Otherwise, he has struggled to fulfill Pioli’s vision for him. Last year, the Chiefs struggled at the start after losing running back Jamaal Charles and tight end Tony Moeaki for the season with injuries.

Cassel’s season ended after nine games because of the broken hand.

“In 2010, Matt was certainly on his way to becoming that player, on his way to becoming a good NFL quarterback,” Pioli said. “He was winning games and he was producing and he was a reason good things were happening.

“This past year was a tough set of circumstances to measure and evaluate his progress. I don’t ever want to make excuses for a team or a player, but playing without one of the best young running backs in the National Football League and playing without one of the

**BossChief** · 02-25-2012, 03:29 AM

Chiefs: "guys, we are gonna interview some playoff coaches for the OC position, that what the holdup is on hiring an OC"

Truth: we never interviewed a single playoff coach and after we hired Daboll, Romeo straight up said we were just waiting for Dabolls contract to end so we could hire him.

Just more bullshit lies they tell us because they think we are ****ing stupid and don't deserve the truth.

When things like this are coming from me, EVERYONE should feel this way.

I usually try to always see the bright side of things, but I can't look past certain things.

When that bitch punk gets fired, he can look back at those things (that ALL stem from Matt ****ing Cassel) as the exact reasons why.

CLARK, you need to make an executive decision here and step in and interfere with this quarterback situation before it goes any further, if you have a pair.

Titty Meat · 02-25-2012, 03:31 AM

So does this mean Peyton Manning?

Dr. Johnny Fever · 02-25-2012, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

Chiefs: "guys, we are gonna interview some playoff coaches for the OC position, that what the holdup is on hiring an OC"

Truth: we never interviewed a single playoff coach and after we hired Daboll, Romeo straight up said we were just waiting for Dabolls contract to end so we could hire him.

Just more bullshit lies they tell us because they think we are ****ing stupid and don't deserve the truth.

When things like this are coming from me, EVERYONE should feel this way.

I usually try to always see the bright side of things, but I can't look past certain things.

When that bitch punk gets fired, he can look back at those things (that ALL stem from Matt ****ing Cassel) as the exact reasons why.

CLARK, you need to make an executive decision here and step in and interfere with this quarterback situation before it goes any further, if you have a pair.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news man but the Chiefs aren't likely to be really good.... well... ever. Not until the current regime is long gone and a competent one has been in place for a while at least... and since this is KC I expect that all to happen some years after I'm dead. (I'm 42 and healthy.)

**BossChief** · 02-25-2012, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

So does this mean Peyton Manning?

That's the executive decision I was referring to.

Ask OCity, I mentioned it during a game during the year.

After one of Cassels shit fests, I said Clark should walk into Scotts office and simply say "get my team a quarterback" and that's it....just say that, close the door and leave.

If he doesn't seem to be doing enough to fill that request, he needs to step in if he wants to fill the stands and give this team a ****ing chance at doing what these liars told us they were gonna do.

Compete for championships, not try to salvage Matt ****ing Cassel at all costs.

God damn these ****ers have me mad today.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 02-25-2012, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

That's the executive decision I was referring to.

Ask OCity, I mentioned it during a game during the year.

After one of Cassels shit fests, I said Clark should walk into Scotts office and simply say "get my team a quarterback" and that's it....just say that, close the door and leave.

If he doesn't seem to be doing enough to fill that request, he needs to step in if he wants to fill the stands and give this team a ****ing chance at doing what these liars told us they were gonna do.

Compete for championships, not try to salvage Matt ****ing Cassel at all costs.

God damn these ****ers have me mad today.

I feel ya bro. Sadly my passion disappeared long ago.

**BossChief** · 02-25-2012, 03:42 AM

I wish I could have a 20 minute interview with Pioli.

No holds barred.

I'd knock it out of the park.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 02-25-2012, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

I wish I could have a 20 minute interview with Pioli.

No holds barred.

I'd knock it out of the park.

He's a politician. He wouldn't answer any real questions.

**BossChief** · 02-25-2012, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. noonanbeermefever

He's a politician. He wouldn't answer any real questions.

Then I would make him look like a fool by painting him into a corner.

Either answer the question or live with the fact that we know exactly why you won't answer them.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 02-25-2012, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

Then I would make him look like a fool by painting him into a corner.

Either answer the question or live with the fact that we know exactly why you won't answer them.

More power to you.

**the Talking Can** · 02-25-2012, 04:14 AM

Quote:

“The answer is yes, there’s going to be competition at quarterback,” Pioli said Thursday at the NFL scouting combine. “But that doesn’t make it different from any other year. That’s not different from the past.

“I don’t think we haven’t tried (to bring in competition for Cassel).

he must really think Chiefs fans are stupid to say something so ridiculous with a straight face...and he's probably right

and it confirms - again - that when he says 'competition' he doesn't actually mean competition...he just means 'you all are suckers'

WhiteWhale · 02-25-2012, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

he must really think Chiefs fans are stupid to say something so ridiculous with a straight face...and he's probably right

and it confirms - again - that when he says 'competition' he doesn't actually mean competition...he just means 'you all are suckers'

That's kinda what I've said all along.

Pioli has said this same thing every season, including his first immediately after trading for Cassel. So I'm just going to let his actions define his view of 'competition'.

**the Talking Can** · 02-25-2012, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good

Talking can's head will implode

nah...i've been trying to tell people this

now Pioli has done the work for me...I don't need to yell any more

anyone claiming, at this point, that there is going to be a QB competition or that Cassel isn't going to be a starter for the 4th straight year, is an actual ****ing reerun...i mean a real 'my doctor's note is proof' reerun

because Pioli has spoken, the issue is closed

**007** · 02-25-2012, 04:34 AM

It's OK though. They already have their season tickets sales locked in for next year.

FringeNC · 02-25-2012, 05:53 AM

So he was completely lying earlier in the day when he said they wanted to bring Orton back.

Fritz88 · 02-25-2012, 06:08 AM

Pioli on NFL network.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-city-chiefs

You literally , literally get NOTHING out of him

It's shameful what he does.

02-25-2012, 01:06 AM
Tribal Warfare The Boom Boom Room Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $902813	Teicher: Chiefs plan to have competition for quarterback Cassel Chiefs plan to have competition for quarterback Cassel By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star Of the players who served as a backup quarterback for the Chiefs the last three seasons, none could be considered a serious candidate to take Matt Cassel’s starting job. General manager Scott Pioli said he couldn’t promise the Chiefs would find a more significant challenge for Cassel this year. But he indicated that if the Chiefs failed, it wouldn’t be for a lack of trying. Just as it wasn’t, Pioli said, the last three seasons. “The answer is yes, there’s going to be competition at quarterback,” Pioli said Thursday at the NFL scouting combine. “But that doesn’t make it different from any other year. That’s not different from the past. “I don’t think we haven’t tried (to bring in competition for Cassel). Part of it was circumstances. When we traded for Matt, he was coming to a program that had two starting quarterbacks here already. It’s easy to sit here now and say, ‘You can’t say player X wasn’t competition.’ That’s not fair. Look at it in the snapshot of that place and time. It certainly appeared there was going to be competition.” Tyler Thigpen and Brodie Croyle were the Chiefs’ quarterbacks when they traded for Cassel three years ago. Neither has been a productive player since leaving the Chiefs. Matt Gutierrez, Tyler Palko, Ricky Stanzi and Kyle Orton have been quarterbacks who have come, and in some cases gone, since. Stanzi, who was drafted last year, is the only Chiefs quarterback other than Cassel under contract for next season. Orton played in four games for the Chiefs last season after Cassel injured his hand and was lost for the year. “Last year, free-agency never started (until training camp),” Pioli said. “We had Matt on the roster. We had Tyler on the roster. We had Ricky, who we drafted. We didn’t draft someone high who was perceived as competition, but I’ll say this: I think Ricky is competition. Let’s not get lost in where a guy was drafted as to whether or not he’s a player. This league has shown time and time again at many positions, including this particular position, that where a player is drafted doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with how good he is or how good he becomes. “You just don’t wave a wand and magically say, ‘There’s competition.’ We drafted a quarterback last year who I truly believe has good ability and has the potential to start in this league. I really do believe that.” With only Cassel and Stanzi signed for 2012, the Chiefs will add at least one quarterback and probably two before training camp starts in July. Veteran possibilities include Peyton Manning, if he’s released by Indianapolis. Two other free-agent possibilities are Chad Henne, who played for Miami last year with new Chiefs offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, and Jason Campbell, who played two seasons for Washington under Jim Zorn, now the Chiefs’ quarterbacks coach. “You don’t know what’s going to happen in free-agency and you don’t know what you’re going to be able to get done,” Pioli said. “Quarterback seems to be one of those positions where there’s pretty good ones, veteran guys who are cut and have outpriced their role. “So you don’t know about quarterbacks (in free-agency). You can’t create a person out of nothing. Availability and circumstances are (key factors in acquiring a quarterback). You can only work with the pool of players you can work with even though you might have certain intentions.” The draft is another option for the Chiefs to add a quarterback. “My hope and strong desire is to draft a quarterback every single year,” Pioli said. “There’s great value in that. Last year I didn’t know if we were going to draft (a quarterback) in the first, second, third, fourth, fifth round, but we ended up drafting a guy who a number of us really like and really think can be a starter in the National Football League.” One of Pioli’s first moves after joining the Chiefs three years ago was to trade for Cassel, who was coming off a strong season as a starter for New England. Cassel had a big season for the Chiefs in 2010, when he made the Pro Bowl. Otherwise, he has struggled to fulfill Pioli’s vision for him. Last year, the Chiefs struggled at the start after losing running back Jamaal Charles and tight end Tony Moeaki for the season with injuries. Cassel’s season ended after nine games because of the broken hand. “In 2010, Matt was certainly on his way to becoming that player, on his way to becoming a good NFL quarterback,” Pioli said. “He was winning games and he was producing and he was a reason good things were happening. “This past year was a tough set of circumstances to measure and evaluate his progress. I don’t ever want to make excuses for a team or a player, but playing without one of the best young running backs in the National Football League and playing without one of the
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1864088	Chiefs: "guys, we are gonna interview some playoff coaches for the OC position, that what the holdup is on hiring an OC" Truth: we never interviewed a single playoff coach and after we hired Daboll, Romeo straight up said we were just waiting for Dabolls contract to end so we could hire him. Just more bullshit lies they tell us because they think we are **ing stupid and don't deserve the truth. When things like this are coming from me, EVERYONE should feel this way. I usually try to always see the bright side of things, but I can't look past certain things. When that bitch punk gets fired, he can look back at those things (that ALL stem from Matt **ing Cassel) as the exact reasons why. CLARK, you need to make an executive decision here and step in and interfere with this quarterback situation before it goes any further, if you have a pair. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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