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At this point, who do you want most?

Say that we could draft anyone not a consensus top ten pick, who's at the top of your list right now?
For me, I really want Haloti Ngata, Michael Huff, or Marcus McNiell.
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Ngata will go in the top 10 I would think.. definitely won't be there when we pick

The safe choice would be best Lineman available I would think
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Old 01-07-2006, 02:40 PM   #3
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Darnell Bing>Micheal Huff.
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Darnell Bing>Micheal Huff.
I agree, but I think Huff is more likely to still be there. Of the non "top 10" guys, those guys are high on my list. A good safety can move into the starting role immediately.
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We need a top 50 draft board or something.
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Darnell Bing>Micheal Huff.
Bing is big and fast but is projected as a SS. He's also had a problem with injuries.

It might be hard to call one better than the other.
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I was just saying in terms of safeties I think Bings the top one.
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Here's a couple on my wish list(in no particular order). We seem to have needs at OL, DT, DE, WR the most...


Rodrique Wright DT 6'5 315 Texas
By: Robert Davis Rodrique Wright came to Texas with huge expectations and early on, he lived up to the hype. He was named the Big 12's Freshman Defensive Player of the Year after tallying 65 tackles, 13 for loss, and 4.5 sacks. He had an even better year as a sophomore, finishing with 80 tackles, 12 for loss, and 7.5 sacks. His numbers fell off as a junior, as he battled a nagging ankle injury all year. He ended the season with just 36 tackles and one sack.
Wright has all the physical attributes you want in a defensive tackle. He is big, strong, quick, and athletic. He has the ability to penetrate the line and disrupt the running game, and the closing speed to get to the quarterback. He is great at slipping through the line and getting into the backfield.
With all the physical talent in the world, you would think Wright would dominate, but he does not. He just has not lived up to what his physical ability suggests he should. He lacks the intensity to be a true difference maker. Despite his size and strength, he can be pushed around in the running game.
The sky is the limit in regards to Wright's potential. He just seems to lack the attitude to want to dominate out there. If a coach can light a fire under his rear, he could be a big time playmaker on the interior line. He displayed signs of domination early on, but has not showed them his last two seasons at Texas. Someone will fall in love with his natural talent, but he is going to need to play with someone who will inspire him to play with a nasty streak in order for him to reach his potential.


Derek Hagan WR 6’2 202 Arizona St.
By: Robert Davis Despite not being heavily recruited, Derek Hagan made an immediate impact as a freshman in 2002. He hauled in 32 passes for 405 yards on the year. That set him up for a breakout sophomore year where he finished with 66 catches for 1,076 yards and 9 touchdowns. He bettered all of those numbers as a junior when he had 83 receptions for 1,248 yards, and 10 touchdowns. Prior to his senior season, he was named to the Playboy All-American team, and was voted a Co-Captain for Arizona St.
Hagan is a very good all around talent at wide receiver. He has good size, good speed, and isn’t afraid to take a hit. If you need it done, Hagan will do it. He can take an underneath pass and make it into a big play, go over the middle and take a hit, or go downfield and haul in the vertical throws. His hands have also become consistent over the past year, and he doesn’t drop the easy ones anymore. His work ethic is second to none, and is a great player to have in the locker room.
While he is good across the board, Hagan does not excel in any one area. He does not have great size, speed, or athleticism. Some might say that that may hinder him as a playmaker at the next level, so it’s something that has to be taken into consideration.
Even though he may not be the most physically gifted player, Hagan is a football player. He comes to play, and he steps his game up when needed. He may never dominate a game like a Randy Moss can, but he is a guy you can go to battle with. There are no true standout receivers in this draft, and Hagan has a chance to go as high as any receiver in this draft. Workouts will dictate exactly where he goes. If he can reel off some good 40 times, he’s going to hear his name called in the Top 20.

Marcus McNeill OT 6’9 338 Auburn
By: Robert Davis Marcus McNeill has been a mainstay on the Auburn line since his true freshman season. He was a Freshman All-American selection in 2002. After an All SEC season last year, he thought about leaving for the NFL but decided to stay, and it paid off. McNeill was named to everyone’s All-American lists for his on field success.
McNeill is absolutely massive. He has a huge frame; he’s tall, has a long wingspan, and weighs almost 340 pounds. He uses that size on the field and absolutely dominates in the running game. He can lock on to a defender and drive him straight into the ground. McNeill is not all power though. He is a very good natural athlete and shows the ability to keep his quarterback off the ground.
While his size gives him a lot of advantages, it is a negative at times. Since he is so tall, he sometimes gets too upright out of his stance, which allows defenders to neutralize his size and strength advantage. He needs to play with the same intensity on a snap to snap basis. McNeill may have some back issues that need to be looked at.
There isn’t a better right tackle prospect in this draft. His ability to dominate at the point makes him a perfect fit on the ride side of any line. But, he also has the natural athleticism to play on the left side. If he can stay low off the snap, he has the ability to dominate as a pass blocker as well. With all his natural talent, McNeill has a chance to go very high come draft day. He should hear his name called in the Top 20 at some point, though some concerns about his back may cause him to slide come draft day if teams are scared off.




Manny Lawson DE 6’6 245 North Carolina St.
By: Robert Davis Manny Lawson is one of the truly elite athletes in college football. Not only has he found time to play both end and linebacker, he’s also a track standout having competed in the long jump and hurdles during his time at NC St. As a linebacker in 2002, Lawson had 35 tackles, with one of them coming for loss. As a part time starter in 2003, he improved on all his numbers. He totaled 53 tackles, seven for loss, with three sacks. Lawson made the switch to DE in 2004, and became a full time starter for the first time in his career. On the year, he finished with 50 tackles, 12 for loss, and seven sacks.
Lawson is an absolute freak of an athlete. He has excellent agility, closing speed, and jumping ability. Pound for pound, he may also be the strongest player in the draft. There is not a single physical trait he lacks. On the football field, he is an emerging talent. He did not make too many plays early on, but once he moved to defensive end, he started to show his pass rushing ability. His upside is tremendous, and he could be a standout pass rusher at the next level. Lawson is also a standout special teamer.
With all his athletic gifts, he is prone to relying on them too often. A major part of that is due to his inexperience on the defensive line. As an end, he lacks the bulk to be a player against the run. Lawson carries the tweener tag, but that has not been a negative lately. Still, he may only fit for certain teams.
Manny Lawson has tremendous upside. As a pass rusher, he has as much pure talent as anyone in the draft. He is listed here as a defensive end, but he has the ability to play OLB in a 3-4 defense. Lawson is a guy that should rise up the charts as the draft approaches because of his awesome physical ability. He will really tear up the combines and individual workouts. Do not be surprised to see him crack the first round, but the second is the safe bet.

Jesse Mahelona DT 6’2 297 Tennessee
By: Robert Davis Jesse Mahelona left Hawaii to play JuCo ball at Orange Coast College in California, and immediately made a name for himself. Despite playing only two games as a sophomore because of a broken ankle, he had every major program after him, and Tennessee won out for his services. As a junior in 2004, Mahelona made a major impact on the Vols interior line. He had 42 tackles with 18.5 of them for loss, and 5 sacks. Prior to this season, he was named to the Playboy All-American list. Mahelona is the ideal 4-3 defensive tackle. He has a great burst off the line, and displays the ability to consistently penetrate the line. For a 300lber, he also shows great closing speed and the ability to chase down plays from behind. What makes Mahelona special is that he combines that penetration ability with great natural strength and the ability to hold his ground at the point of attack. While he is best suited for the 4-3, he could play in a 3-4 alignment on the edge. Other than lacking ideal height for a defensive tackle, there isn’t a whole lot to knock in Mahelona’s game. He doesn’t have a great deal of experience, as he only played one season at JuCo before transferring to Tennessee. There are a few defensive tackles near the top of the draft that could crack the Top 15. Mahelona has as good a shot as anyone to achieve that. For a team that wants someone to disrupt plays from the inside, Mahelona is the best tackle for them. But with a few other tackles that have better natural size, and they may be placed higher on some teams boards.
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Michael Huff DB 6’1 205 Texas
By: Robert Davis Michael Huff has been a playmaker since stepping on to the field as a freshman in 2002 for Texas. He earned freshman All American honors after finishing the season with 70 tackles, 10 for loss, and two interceptions, both of which were returned for touchdowns. As a sophomore, Huff tallied 66 tackles and two interceptions, with both of those being returned for touchdowns. Huff earned All Big 12 and All American honors as a junior, finishing the year with 73 tackles and two picks. He also ran track for Texas in 2004.
Huff is one of the more versatile defensive backs in the draft. He has experience at both safety and corner, and has had success at both. He has a nose for the football at either spot, and breaks well on the ball. Playmaker is the best word to describe Huff. He has all the tools to be a standout defensive back at the next level. He's got good size, he's athletic, and he's fast. His versatility makes him even more intriguing.
Playing both safety and corner has left him a little unpolished at both positions. He needs to show more discipline at safety because he always good for the big play. At corner, he relies on his athleticism too much and will need work.
Huff has the talent to play whatever position he wants to play. I believe he projects better to safety because he is more ready to play at that position at the next level. He will need some time to learn the corner position. As a free safety, he brings excellent playmaking ability and would be a great cover man for any secondary. Individual workouts after the season will determine where teams feel he will be better served playing, and will ultimately decide his draft stock. He could go anywhere in the Top 50 with quality workouts.
Ray Edwards DE 6’6 270 Purdue Jr.
By: Robert Davis
Purdue has had some standout pass rushers that have moved on to the NFL like Shaun Phillips and Roosevelt Colvin, and Ray Edwards may be next. In a part time role as a freshman, he was named to the Big 10 All Freshman team. Once he moved into the lineup as a sophomore, he became a major threat off the edge. He finished the season with eight sacks, to go along with 45 tackles(11 for loss). This past season as a junior, his numbers dipped a bit, but he still finished the year with 28 tackles, 11 for loss, and 5.5 sacks.
Edwards has big time upside at the next level. He has the size and natural athleticism that teams covet in the draft. He displays a quick burst off the line, and the agility to slip past tackles to get into the backfield. He has a lot of pass rush upside. He also has the size to hold at the point in the running game, and has the frame to pack on more weight.
There are a couple problems in Edwards’ game. For as talented as he is, he does not dominate the way he should. He could have 15 sacks if he put everything together on a game to game basis. He still relies on his athleticism too much, and does not give full effort on every play. There is also some talk that he did not take to coaching very well, and that played a big role in his decision to leave. His attitude may need to be checked out by teams to see if he is willing to put forth the effort to get better.
On upside, Ray Edwards could be as high as the third best defensive end in this draft. If he can put on a show in workouts, and demonstrate the ability to listen to his coaches, he could really fly up the draft boards. Edwards is a boom or bust player. He could be a star, or he could be out of the league in three years. He could be a late first rounder, or he could fall to Day Two. It’s up to Ray to show how much he wants to succeed.

Top NFL Prospects
QB | RB | WR/TE | OL | DE | DT | LB | CB | S
By: Robert Davis | Updated 12/18
  1. Reggie Bush, RB, USC
  2. Matt Leinart, QB, USC
  3. D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia
  4. A.J. Hawk, LB, Ohio St.
  5. Mario Williams, DE, North Carolina St.
  6. Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College
  7. Jimmy Williams, DB, Va Tech
  8. DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis
  9. Eric Winston, OT, Miami
  10. Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame
  11. Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon
  12. Jonathan Scott, OT, Texas
  13. Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota, Jr.
  14. Darnell Bing, S, USC, Jr.
  15. Michael Huff, S, Texas
  16. Martin Nance, WR, Miami(OH)
  17. Marcus McNeill, OT, Auburn
  18. Marcedes Lewis, TE, UCLA
  19. Jason Allen, CB, Tennessee
  20. Vince Young, QB, Texas, Jr.
  21. Chad Greenway, LB, Iowa
  22. Jesse Mahelona, DT, Tennessee
  23. Ahmad Brooks, LB, Virginia
  24. Claude Wroten, DT, LSU
  25. Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio St.
  26. Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland, Jr.
  27. Ernie Sims, LB, Florida St.
  28. Tamba Hali, DE, Penn St.
  29. Derek Hagan, WR, Arizona St.
  30. Winston Justice, OT, USC
  31. Jeff Samardzija, WR, Notre Dame
  32. LenDale White, RB, USC
  33. Omar Jacobs, QB, Bowling Green, Jr.
  34. Charles Gordon, CB, Kansas Jr.
  35. Max Jean-Gilles, Georgia
  36. Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt
  37. Daryn Colledge, OT, Boise St.
  38. Rodrique Wright, DT, Texas
  39. Tye Hill, CB, Clemson
  40. LaRon Landry, S, LSU
  41. D'Qwell Jackson, LB, Maryland
  42. Manny Lawson, DE, North Carolina St.
  43. Andrew Whitworth, OT, LSU
  44. Abdul Hodge, LB, Iowa
  45. Leonard Pope, TE, Georgia, Jr.
  46. Will Blackmon, CB, Boston College
  47. DeMeco Ryans, LB, Alabama
  48. Taitusi Lutui, USC
  49. Davin Joseph, OG, Oklahoma
  50. Cedric Griffin, CB, Texas
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Here's a couple on my wish list(in no particular order). We seem to have needs at OL, DT, DE, WR the most...

Rodrique Wright DT 6'5 315 Texas
Derek Hagan WR 6’2 202 Arizona St.
Manny Lawson DE 6’6 245 North Carolina St.
I'm a lil bit worried about those 3.

Rod Wright was completely invisible against USC. I'm worried about his ability, and motivation to be able to make plays against NFL offensive lines.

Derek Hagan, for all accounts and purposes, is a slow possession reciever. At most, he's probably a Keyshawn Johnson-type. We have a bunch of #2 recievers, we need a true #1, something I'm not sure if even Santonio Holmes can be. (He's the best candidate for that, though)

Manny Lawson I don't know too much about. I do know that he was playing on the same line with the incredible Mario Williams, and could have been benifiting from his stellar play. Scouts were heaping praise on Ryan Sims too, but its clear that he was greatly benifitting from playing alongside Juliuis Peppers.
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I'm a lil bit worried about those 3.

Rod Wright was completely invisible against USC. I'm worried about his ability, and motivation to be able to make plays against NFL offensive lines.

Derek Hagan, for all accounts and purposes, is a slow possession reciever. At most, he's probably a Keyshawn Johnson-type. We have a bunch of #2 recievers, we need a true #1, something I'm not sure if even Santonio Holmes can be. (He's the best candidate for that, though)

Manny Lawson I don't know too much about. I do know that he was playing on the same line with the incredible Mario Williams, and could have been benifiting from his stellar play. Scouts were heaping praise on Ryan Sims too, but its clear that he was greatly benifitting from playing alongside Juliuis Peppers.
A lot of the guys I listed have potential...maybe not 1st rounders...I was thinking maybe 2nd or 3rd round. There's going to be knocks on just about everyone that's not in the top 10. All of these kids have potential to be good picks. The draft always has and always will be a crapshoot.
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Manny Lawson is going to be a 3-4 player in the NFL, so I'd more or less avoid him.
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Lawson's a linebacker.

Derek Hagan really is a slow possession receiver. Add to the fact that his hands aren't even great. He has really limited potential, if any at all.

Rod Wright's never been an impact player.

Guys I'd like that could be available:

- Ashton Youboty, CB, Ohio State
- Marcus McNeill, OT, Auburn
- Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State
- Darnell Bing, S, Southern Cal
- Ko Simpson, S, South Carolina
- Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt
- Claude Wroten, DT, LSU
- Antonio Cromartie, CB, Florida State
- Michael Huff, CB/S, Texas
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Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
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