Chiefs Since we are ready to throw out Thiggy why not go grab Cassel - Page 4

Red Dawg · 12-18-2008, 09:26 PM

in FA? No way they tag him for 8 mil. We've got the cash, he's young, got the size, the arm and has a full year under his belt. That's better to build around at this point than a junior class qb with no experience. Granted our team is less talented than the Pats but he will only get better and would probably jump at the chance to call a team his own.

I like Thiggy but he doesn't have the size and strength of a Manning type player. We could probably get a good pick for him and keep Gray as a back up.

Mecca · 12-18-2008, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated

I'm sure it means nothing, but a psychic (Monty on 96.5, who also predicted the NYG to win the SB last year, and the Phillies to win the WS) predicted that TT would have a good NFL career, but not with the KC Chiefs.

Not saying I believe, just saying.

Good is fine good is like Jeff Garcia, and you don't win championships with that....

sedated · 12-18-2008, 11:53 PM

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don't be bitter Sedated

okay, so he fukt my fantasy team. but I wasn't crazy about him in the first place, was supposed to be a value pick.

Mecca · 12-18-2008, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

I won't argue the overall offensive point. But what makes you think our line could block with him under center when they couldn't for the other 2?

Would you draft Sanchez given the chance?

sedated · 12-18-2008, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

It's pretty bad when USC has a more pro style offense than the Chiefs do.

and I'm sure its easier playing ANY offense in the pac-10 than it is in the AFC West

Wilson8 · 12-18-2008, 11:57 PM

The non-exclusive franchise number for quarterbacks in 2008 was $10.7 million. Patriots would have to commit a lot of money to QB to keep him. They still might do it if they thought Brady was not ready to come back in 2009.

Mecca · 12-18-2008, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated

and I'm sure its easier playing ANY offense in the pac-10 than it is in the AFC West

It's still the point of what's going on here and why we have some serious issues. Mark Sanchez is more developed as a QB than the guy we're starting.

**petegz28** · 12-19-2008, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Would you draft Sanchez given the chance?

I'll be honest with you, I am not a huge college football fan and I have not watched him really at all. Bradford and Stafford are the ones I keep hearing about. And of course, Tebow. I am not doubting you when you say Sanchez appears to have better footwork or whatever your point is with him.

My point is I don't think Thigy is getting a fair shake for a few reasons. One of them being the line he has to play behind.

Now I will argue that I don't think it matters who you bring in here if we don't have a line that blocks.

Mecca · 12-19-2008, 12:02 AM

And I will argue to you, having a QB with bad footwork which gives him bad accuracy that trusts his legs more than his arm is a problem. Then it becomes compounded when he's only comfortable in the shotgun which limits what you can do as an offense.

chiefsfan4life1978 · 12-19-2008, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH

Thigpen is doing great for the level of competition he had in college, the experience had coming into this season, and the group of players he shares the field with.

He has accounted for 18 TDs this season - last season we had 24 offensive TDs as a team - and he hasn't played the full season. Since the bye week, his QB rating is 86.3 - that's within 1 point of McNabb, Favre, Cassel, and Eli Manning, not to mention that he's put up more rushing yards than any of those 4 playing less games.

I'd like to see Thigpen get some more experience under his belt and also see how many wins this team could generate with Brady back, Bowe learning to catch, a RB that can run AND block, and a D that can actually force the other team to punt once in a while.

We've been talking about how we want a "Franchise QB" since Green got his bell rung. Tyler is stepping up and playing decently and actually showing potential to be a solid QB and we want someone else.

I'm not opposed to drafting, but no way does Thiggy get a fair chance to compete against a QB taken in the top 5 of a draft. I fear we're going to toss another Gannon aside looking for a stud that turns out to be a dud.

Brady back? I'm confused. Did you mean Brodie? If so, how does he help us?

Mecca · 12-19-2008, 12:06 AM

Brodie would help us by breaking his arm or something.....and Thigpen is stroking the Gannon stuff, Gannon was a pretty good under center QB he excelled in the short passing west coast offense.

sedated · 12-19-2008, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

It's still the point of what's going on here and why we have some serious issues. Mark Sanchez is more developed as a QB than the guy we're starting.

I'm sorry, I just can't buy someone's opinion on a USC QB when they are obviouly the biggest USC homer in the history of chiefsplanet.

Is anyone, anywhere, pimping Sanchez as much as our own mr. usc/self-proclaimed draft expert?

Mecca · 12-19-2008, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by sedated

I'm sorry, I just can't buy someone's opinion on a USC QB when they are obviouly the biggest USC homer in the history of chiefsplanet.

Is anyone, anywhere, pimping Sanchez as much as our own mr. usc/self-proclaimed draft expert?

If anyone should know anything about me it's that I don't pimp dudes from my school unless it's deserved.

Did I ever once pimp John David Booty? Hell the player I'm most remembered for pimping is Antonio Cromartie he went to FSU.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 12-19-2008, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'd like to see Tyler Thigpen display proper footwork and be able to play from under the center.

I'd also like to see him throw the deep ball with better accuracy.

**petegz28** · 12-19-2008, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I'd also like to see him throw the deep ball with better accuracy.

Me too. But playing time with the receivers will hlep that. Let's not forget he has hit Bradley on some nice deep routes. I hate the playcalls though that have our deep passes always going to the sideline or that stupid fade pass.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 12-19-2008, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Me too. But playing time with the receivers will hlep that. Let's not forget he has hit Bradley on some nice deep routes. I hate the playcalls though that have our deep passes always going to the sideline or that stupid fade pass.

I hope so. I definitely want to see Tyler have a legitimate shot at winning the job next year, but I'm not ready to just give it to him.

12-18-2008, 09:26 PM
Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $4752858	Since we are ready to throw out Thiggy why not go grab Cassel in FA? No way they tag him for 8 mil. We've got the cash, he's young, got the size, the arm and has a full year under his belt. That's better to build around at this point than a junior class qb with no experience. Granted our team is less talented than the Pats but he will only get better and would probably jump at the chance to call a team his own. I like Thiggy but he doesn't have the size and strength of a Manning type player. We could probably get a good pick for him and keep Gray as a back up.
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Wilson8 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $3627557	The non-exclusive franchise number for quarterbacks in 2008 was $10.7 million. Patriots would have to commit a lot of money to QB to keep him. They still might do it if they thought Brady was not ready to come back in 2009.
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12-19-2008, 12:02 AM	#53
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2617050	And I will argue to you, having a QB with bad footwork which gives him bad accuracy that trusts his legs more than his arm is a problem. Then it becomes compounded when he's only comfortable in the shotgun which limits what you can do as an offense.
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12-19-2008, 12:06 AM	#55
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2617050	Brodie would help us by breaking his arm or something.....and Thigpen is stroking the Gannon stuff, Gannon was a pretty good under center QB he excelled in the short passing west coast offense.
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