Chiefs Do you think we could trade for an elite WR in the offseason? - Page 2

Silock · 11-09-2010, 12:00 AM

Surely there are some teams that would be willing to give up an elite WR (like a Chad Johnson) for some draft picks to help their rebuild.

Or do you think we'll continue to try to build through the draft?

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-09-2010, 12:13 AM

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What are the chances of us finding all the WR help we need in the draft? Because we need a LOT of help there. I mean, not only do we need guys who can actually catch, but we need at least one deep threat.

If the Chiefs perform their due diligence, they could find at least one complimentary receiver in the 2011 draft.

Verran Tucker had a promising debut as well, plus Haley's a receiver coach first and foremost. Trading for a vet is a waste.

Draft, draft, draft, draft, draft.

Silock · 11-09-2010, 12:14 AM

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Come on, Dude, ****!

Mike Williams was a 4th this year. Mike Wallace was a third last year. Louis Murphy was a 4th in 2009.

ANY of these guys and the others I mentioned were late rounders that quickly made an impact. It's up to the scouting department to make it happen.

**** trading for an old ****.

Heh, okay!

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-09-2010, 12:15 AM

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Heh, okay!

**RealSNR** · 11-09-2010, 12:17 AM

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There are always good receivers to be found throughout the draft.

Jacoby Ford was a 4th rounder. Steve Breaston was a 5th. Marques Colston was a 7th. Welker was undrafted. Julian Edelman was a 7th.

And on and on and on and on.

Trading for a receiver would be ****ing dumb.

It's far easier to go get a real QB and throw any asshole off the street into the lineup. Who was the no name that had 100 yards receiving from Philip Rivers on Sunday? Answer: doesn't ****ing matter. If that guy was in the lineup with Matt Cassel he'd still be a no-name asshole.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-09-2010, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

There are always good receivers to be found throughout the draft.

Jacoby Ford was a 4th rounder. Steve Breaston was a 5th. Marques Colston was a 7th. Welker was undrafted. Julian Edelman was a 7th.

And on and on and on and on.

Trading for a receiver would be ****ing dumb.

TO was a 3rd
Miles Austin was an UDFA
Derrick Mason was a 4th
Desean Jackson was a mid 2nd
Cris Carter was a 4th
Houshmanzillie was a 7th
Joe Horn was a 6th
Vincent Jackson was picked in the ass end of the 2nd
Brandon Marshall was a 4th
Marques Colston was a 7th
Steve Smith was a 3rd

Even one-dimensional deep threats like Mike Wallace and Johnny Knox were 3rd and 5th round players.

Now, with that said, you probably aren't going to get a Calvin Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald with a third rounder, but you don't need to have Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce at WR to have a successful offense, either.

Silock · 11-09-2010, 12:18 AM

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I don't really have a preference. I was just asking the question

You answered well, I think.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-09-2010, 12:18 AM

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It's far easier to go get a real QB and throw any asshole off the street into the lineup. Who was the no name that had 100 yards receiving from Philip Rivers on Sunday? Answer: doesn't ****ing matter. If that guy was in the lineup with Matt Cassel he'd still be a no-name asshole.

While I agree completely, I'm not so sure that Cassel won't be the QB next season, which will certainly require a serious upgrade to the receiving corp.

ChiefsCountry · 11-09-2010, 12:18 AM

Austin Pettis, Terrance Tollivar are two guys in the 3rd and 4th round range that would be good WRs for us. I really like Pettis.

**RealSNR** · 11-09-2010, 12:18 AM

Also, the other key is taking receivers in the draft who had potential.

That means **** guys like Will Franklin. Take STARTERS in college who make big plays.

**BossChief** · 11-09-2010, 12:20 AM

Haley REALLY likes Tucker. He says he has many qualities that "aren't coachable, you either have it or you don't" and he doesn't talk well about many players. He could be our Breaston, or he could be the next Lance Long...I guess time will tell.

If a solid vet were to be available in free agency, I would sign him...but trading for one, umm no.

Then again, I was on board with signing Chambers last offseason (but that was before the info about him getting together with the stalker came out, too. I thought he had finally gotten away from that bitch that took all his concentration away in SD and was why he was cut there, and might be here as well)

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-09-2010, 12:20 AM

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I don't really have a preference. I was just asking the question

You answered well, I think.

Sorry Dude!

I think I'm still angry about yesterday's loss. I don't mind when the Chiefs give 100% and lose like they did to the Colts or Texans, but yesterday was inexcusable.

Silock · 11-09-2010, 12:21 AM

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While I agree completely, I'm not so sure that Cassel won't be the QB next season, which will certainly require a serious upgrade to the receiving corp.

Which will require a decent investment of draft picks. Do you think we will trade for ANY position next year, or will we continue to pick up free agents?

BryanBusby · 11-09-2010, 12:21 AM

I'd be cool with Pioli making it rain money and vouchers for cab rides to Vincent Jackson.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-09-2010, 12:21 AM

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Haley REALLY likes Tucker. He says he has many qualities that "aren't coachable, you either have it or you don't" and he doesn't talk well about many players. He could be our Breaston, or he could be the next Lance Long...I guess time will tell.

If a solid vet were to be available in free agency, I would sign him...but trading for one, umm no.

He's certainly NOT Lance Long.

The dude actually caught the ball and scored.

Plus, he's 6'1, 204. Definite potential.

Silock · 11-09-2010, 12:22 AM

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Sorry Dude!

I think I'm still angry about yesterday's loss. I don't mind when the Chiefs give 100% and lose like they did to the Colts or Texans, but yesterday was inexcusable.

No apology necessary. I wasn't offended in the least.

I understand completely. I was so upset yesterday that the wife steered clear. A good night's sleep and a hard workout today, and I think I'm pretty much over it and looking forward to domination of Denver this weekend. **** the Broncos.

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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1864088	Haley REALLY likes Tucker. He says he has many qualities that "aren't coachable, you either have it or you don't" and he doesn't talk well about many players. He could be our Breaston, or he could be the next Lance Long...I guess time will tell. If a solid vet were to be available in free agency, I would sign him...but trading for one, umm no. Then again, I was on board with signing Chambers last offseason (but that was before the info about him getting together with the stalker came out, too. I thought he had finally gotten away from that bitch that took all his concentration away in SD and was why he was cut there, and might be here as well) __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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