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-King- · 10-28-2011, 02:17 PM

Chiefs' Brandon Flowers, Tamba Hali Receive Fines From The NFL

Typical Kansas City Chiefs and Oakland Raiders game last week. We've received word from the league office that at least four players were fined in the game, including two Chiefs.
We'll start with the bad guys...

Raiders LB Aaron Curry was popped for $10,000 after an unnecessary roughness call for hitting a Chief late. This play came on the Chiefs first possession of the second half.

Raiders CB Stanford Routt was fined $7,500 for hitting Chiefs RB Jackie Battle out of bounds. This came on the Chiefs final drive of the game (when they were up 28-0).
And for the good guys...

Chiefs CB Brandon Flowers was fined $10,000 for his touchdown dance in the Black Hole but I don't think the fans would want him to change what we did. The specific violation was using the ball as a prop.

Chiefs LB Tamba Hali was fined $15,000 for hitting the quarterback below the knees. He received a penalty for this during the game -- it was Carson Palmer's first pass.

SPchief · 10-28-2011, 02:42 PM

OMG, he steped on the footbal! Fine!

acarter25 · 10-28-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Hitting below the knees of a QB? Fined!

Hitting below the knees of any other player? Perfectly legal.

****ing stupid.

This, what pisses me off most about this is that they are going to fine him for something that is a very popular part of the game from an offensive blocking stand point. Before long the NFL is going to be the new NBA.

**chasedude** · 10-28-2011, 02:46 PM

And... the pussification of Football by Roger continues...

CoMoChief · 10-28-2011, 02:47 PM

Stevie Johnson didn't get fined for the hit on Berry.

**chasedude** · 10-28-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Stevie Johnson didn't get fined for the hit on Berry.

Berry isn't a QB

-King- · 10-28-2011, 02:51 PM

When does Roger's contract end?
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**Rain Man** · 10-28-2011, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Feel free to fine the dance, I don't much like them anyway.
But FFS how do you fine a defensive player for doing his job? This crap is getting out of hand. No, it is already out of hand. We need to replace Goodell with Mike Singletary.

Yes.

Yes, yes, yes.

The Hali hit can in no way be construed to be intentional.

CoMoChief · 10-28-2011, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chasedude

Berry isn't a QB

Which is exactly my point.....I think it's ****ing stupid to have rules for certain players. The QB is the most important position and has the ball the majority of the game, and fining the players for where they hit them is just stupid. Most (If not all, unless you're someone like a Romanowski). players aren't out to purposely hit people to hurt them.

Meanwhile Hali gets held about 50% of the snaps he rushes the QB and nothing gets called. (Not that it should result in someone getting fined....it's just the game has changed so much that eventually we're going to see a ****ing Wrap-up game instead of tackle).

**chasedude** · 10-28-2011, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Which is exactly my point.....I think it's ****ing stupid to have rules for certain players. The QB is the most important position and has the ball the majority of the game, and fining the players for where they hit them is just stupid. Most (If not all, unless you're someone like a Romanowski). players aren't out to purposely hit people to hurt them.

I agree with you. It's hypocritical to call it for Palmer and not for Berry. Goodell has his $ blinders on.

Demonpenz · 10-28-2011, 03:03 PM

maybe they can take a look at HALI getting held so much. Might be nice to enforce the rules

KCrockaholic · 10-28-2011, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King-

When does Roger's contract end?
Posted via Mobile Device

2015.

**** our lives.

SenselessChiefsFan · 10-28-2011, 03:17 PM

Hey, I have no problem with either of these really.... but to act like Hali was just 'falling' is being very homeristic.

He lunged. Now, whether or not he intended to hit Palmer right on the knee? I don't know, but it was like he wasn't blocked into him or tripped and fell. He was off balance and lunged at Palmer.

I really don't think for one minute that it wasn't intentional. Take a guy who is new to a team, has three days of practice, has had 10 months on the couch and who has never really been the same since he hurt his knne, and then throw a defensive lineman at him low.... and well, I think it certainly doesn't help his game.

Hali hasn't been dirty before. I don't think Hali would intentionally try to 'hurt' Palmer. The hit didn't have a ton of force behind it. So, I don't think he was trying to hurt him.... just make him concious of the fact that he still has knees and this is still a contact sport... and that just maybe, the couch was where he should have stayed.

BoneKrusher · 10-28-2011, 03:21 PM

Warren Sapp was right when he said the NFL has gone soft.

-King- · 10-28-2011, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

2015.

**** our lives.

Damn by then, the defensive line will have to line up 20 yards off the ball and rifle men will be standing on the sideline with instructions to kill anyone who gets within 5 feet of the quarterback.
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ForeverChiefs58 · 10-28-2011, 03:25 PM

Does the NFL not want them to tackle?

Bernard Pollard was flagged for a 15-yard unnecessary roughness penalty on Monday night football that was also just stupid. It was a clean hit, it is like they want the defense to just let the offense make a play.

Pollard says NFL is enticing defenders to go for knees

Strong safety thinks rules protecting players make it harder for defensive players to tackle

Bernard Pollard was flagged for a 15-yard unnecessary roughness penalty described by referee Carl Ceffers as a helmet-to-helmet hit on a defenseless receiver in the third quarter of the Ravens’ 12-7 loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars Monday night.

But coach John Harbaugh defended the hit as being legal and Pollard said he has yet to receive a letter from the NFL informing him of a fine, which is usually a result for players cited for such a penalty.

But the starting strong safety sounded off on the league’s rules on contact, saying the limitations could have an adverse effect on how defensive players tackle their offensive counterparts.

“Like I’ve said before, with these rules they’re putting in, you’re going to get guys hurt because now when you tell a guy, ‘OK, don’t hit in the chest. We know you can’t hit in the head, but don’t hit in the chest either,’ what everybody is going to start doing is going after people’s knees because you’ve got to bring them down some way, somehow,” Pollard said after Wednesday’s practice. “So now when you get those hits on the knees, you’re going to have some guys going out. So are they going to make this flag football? You never know. So I think with the rules they’re implementing, we’ve got to be ready to go. We’ve got to be ready as defenders. We respond, and we react, and we react to them. So when you have quick passes, you’ve got to get them down some way, somehow. We all know and understand that we cannot take the face shots because you’ve got the concussions and everything else. But you can’t shut us off and tell us that we can’t hit the chest or we can’t lean in with our shoulder and hit them in the shoulder or chest.”

Pollard has a very short history with tackling low. His hit on Tom Brady’s left knee while crawling to make a sack in the 2008 season opener sidelined the New England Patriots quarterback for the remainder of the year.

Since then, the NFL has adopted new rules to protect quarterbacks, adding restrictions to hitting quarterbacks in the head and knees. The league has since expanded those protections to what it refers to as defenseless receivers, players in the act of making a catch who can’t brace themselves for a devastating impact.

Pollard, who said he could envision a scenario where tackles may come under the purview of challenges, said he understands the NFL’s intentions.

“I think at the end of the day, the league is trying to protect players,” he said. “At the same time, while they’re protecting players, this is a sport that’s violent. You can’t say, ‘Go get in a car crash, but be careful.’ This is a car wreck every single play with guys. So we know and understand how to take care of our bodies as far as what’s a violent shot and what’s an unnecessary violent shot. Football’s football. If you asked me to go do it again this Sunday, I’m doing the same thing. So they’re either going to keep flagging us or they’re going to have to do something about this rule.”

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SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	Hey, I have no problem with either of these really.... but to act like Hali was just 'falling' is being very homeristic. He lunged. Now, whether or not he intended to hit Palmer right on the knee? I don't know, but it was like he wasn't blocked into him or tripped and fell. He was off balance and lunged at Palmer. I really don't think for one minute that it wasn't intentional. Take a guy who is new to a team, has three days of practice, has had 10 months on the couch and who has never really been the same since he hurt his knne, and then throw a defensive lineman at him low.... and well, I think it certainly doesn't help his game. Hali hasn't been dirty before. I don't think Hali would intentionally try to 'hurt' Palmer. The hit didn't have a ton of force behind it. So, I don't think he was trying to hurt him.... just make him concious of the fact that he still has knees and this is still a contact sport... and that just maybe, the couch was where he should have stayed. __________________ A bad day at the gym is better than a good day on the Couch. Last edited by SenselessChiefsFan; 10-28-2011 at 03:22 PM.. Reason: missed the n't on wasn't
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ForeverChiefs58 MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $2925326	Does the NFL not want them to tackle? Bernard Pollard was flagged for a 15-yard unnecessary roughness penalty on Monday night football that was also just stupid. It was a clean hit, it is like they want the defense to just let the offense make a play. Pollard says NFL is enticing defenders to go for knees Strong safety thinks rules protecting players make it harder for defensive players to tackle Bernard Pollard was flagged for a 15-yard unnecessary roughness penalty described by referee Carl Ceffers as a helmet-to-helmet hit on a defenseless receiver in the third quarter of the Ravens’ 12-7 loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars Monday night. But coach John Harbaugh defended the hit as being legal and Pollard said he has yet to receive a letter from the NFL informing him of a fine, which is usually a result for players cited for such a penalty. But the starting strong safety sounded off on the league’s rules on contact, saying the limitations could have an adverse effect on how defensive players tackle their offensive counterparts. “Like I’ve said before, with these rules they’re putting in, you’re going to get guys hurt because now when you tell a guy, ‘OK, don’t hit in the chest. We know you can’t hit in the head, but don’t hit in the chest either,’ what everybody is going to start doing is going after people’s knees because you’ve got to bring them down some way, somehow,” Pollard said after Wednesday’s practice. “So now when you get those hits on the knees, you’re going to have some guys going out. So are they going to make this flag football? You never know. So I think with the rules they’re implementing, we’ve got to be ready to go. We’ve got to be ready as defenders. We respond, and we react, and we react to them. So when you have quick passes, you’ve got to get them down some way, somehow. We all know and understand that we cannot take the face shots because you’ve got the concussions and everything else. But you can’t shut us off and tell us that we can’t hit the chest or we can’t lean in with our shoulder and hit them in the shoulder or chest.” Pollard has a very short history with tackling low. His hit on Tom Brady’s left knee while crawling to make a sack in the 2008 season opener sidelined the New England Patriots quarterback for the remainder of the year. Since then, the NFL has adopted new rules to protect quarterbacks, adding restrictions to hitting quarterbacks in the head and knees. The league has since expanded those protections to what it refers to as defenseless receivers, players in the act of making a catch who can’t brace themselves for a devastating impact. Pollard, who said he could envision a scenario where tackles may come under the purview of challenges, said he understands the NFL’s intentions. “I think at the end of the day, the league is trying to protect players,” he said. “At the same time, while they’re protecting players, this is a sport that’s violent. You can’t say, ‘Go get in a car crash, but be careful.’ This is a car wreck every single play with guys. So we know and understand how to take care of our bodies as far as what’s a violent shot and what’s an unnecessary violent shot. Football’s football. If you asked me to go do it again this Sunday, I’m doing the same thing. So they’re either going to keep flagging us or they’re going to have to do something about this rule.”
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