Teicher: Chiefs plan to have competition for quarterback Cassel

[Tribal Warfare]

Chiefs plan to have competition for quarterback Cassel
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Of the players who served as a backup quarterback for the Chiefs the last three seasons, none could be considered a serious candidate to take Matt Cassel’s starting job.

General manager Scott Pioli said he couldn’t promise the Chiefs would find a more significant challenge for Cassel this year. But he indicated that if the Chiefs failed, it wouldn’t be for a lack of trying.

Just as it wasn’t, Pioli said, the last three seasons.

“The answer is yes, there’s going to be competition at quarterback,” Pioli said Thursday at the NFL scouting combine. “But that doesn’t make it different from any other year. That’s not different from the past.

“I don’t think we haven’t tried (to bring in competition for Cassel). Part of it was circumstances. When we traded for Matt, he was coming to a program that had two starting quarterbacks here already. It’s easy to sit here now and say, ‘You can’t say player X wasn’t competition.’ That’s not fair. Look at it in the snapshot of that place and time. It certainly appeared there was going to be competition.”

Tyler Thigpen and Brodie Croyle were the Chiefs’ quarterbacks when they traded for Cassel three years ago. Neither has been a productive player since leaving the Chiefs.

Matt Gutierrez, Tyler Palko, Ricky Stanzi and Kyle Orton have been quarterbacks who have come, and in some cases gone, since.

Stanzi, who was drafted last year, is the only Chiefs quarterback other than Cassel under contract for next season. Orton played in four games for the Chiefs last season after Cassel injured his hand and was lost for the year.

“Last year, free-agency never started (until training camp),” Pioli said. “We had Matt on the roster. We had Tyler on the roster. We had Ricky, who we drafted. We didn’t draft someone high who was perceived as competition, but I’ll say this: I think Ricky is competition. Let’s not get lost in where a guy was drafted as to whether or not he’s a player. This league has shown time and time again at many positions, including this particular position, that where a player is drafted doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with how good he is or how good he becomes.

“You just don’t wave a wand and magically say, ‘There’s competition.’ We drafted a quarterback last year who I truly believe has good ability and has the potential to start in this league. I really do believe that.”

With only Cassel and Stanzi signed for 2012, the Chiefs will add at least one quarterback and probably two before training camp starts in July. Veteran possibilities include Peyton Manning, if he’s released by Indianapolis.

Two other free-agent possibilities are Chad Henne, who played for Miami last year with new Chiefs offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, and Jason Campbell, who played two seasons for Washington under Jim Zorn, now the Chiefs’ quarterbacks coach.

“You don’t know what’s going to happen in free-agency and you don’t know what you’re going to be able to get done,” Pioli said. “Quarterback seems to be one of those positions where there’s pretty good ones, veteran guys who are cut and have outpriced their role.

“So you don’t know about quarterbacks (in free-agency). You can’t create a person out of nothing. Availability and circumstances are (key factors in acquiring a quarterback). You can only work with the pool of players you can work with even though you might have certain intentions.”

The draft is another option for the Chiefs to add a quarterback.

“My hope and strong desire is to draft a quarterback every single year,” Pioli said. “There’s great value in that. Last year I didn’t know if we were going to draft (a quarterback) in the first, second, third, fourth, fifth round, but we ended up drafting a guy who a number of us really like and really think can be a starter in the National Football League.”

One of Pioli’s first moves after joining the Chiefs three years ago was to trade for Cassel, who was coming off a strong season as a starter for New England. Cassel had a big season for the Chiefs in 2010, when he made the Pro Bowl.

Otherwise, he has struggled to fulfill Pioli’s vision for him. Last year, the Chiefs struggled at the start after losing running back Jamaal Charles and tight end Tony Moeaki for the season with injuries.

Cassel’s season ended after nine games because of the broken hand.

“In 2010, Matt was certainly on his way to becoming that player, on his way to becoming a good NFL quarterback,” Pioli said. “He was winning games and he was producing and he was a reason good things were happening.

“This past year was a tough set of circumstances to measure and evaluate his progress. I don’t ever want to make excuses for a team or a player, but playing without one of the best young running backs in the National Football League and playing without one of the

[007]

Originally Posted by qabbaan

Under no circumstance will there be true competition. Either the job will be Cassel's or it will be Manning's. In either case there will be no question about it

I hope our first opponent has a massive sack attack if it is CAssel.

[xztop12]

I personally think Pioli is done with Matt. When Orton came in and played well with the same O it was obvious to anyone that MC was a major issue. I also don't think, up to this point, that Pioli is been irrational with his use and persistence with Matt Cassel as the starting QB. Which he would be if MC came back next year despite Orton outplaying him with the same unit.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Guru

I hope our first opponent has a massive sack attack if it is CAssel.

Then the excuse will be the O-Line couldn't protect him.

They'll be making excuses for Matt Cassel until the day he retires.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by milkman

Then the excuse will be the O-Line couldn't protect him.

They'll be making excuses for Matt Cassel until the day he retires.

This.

[007]

Originally Posted by milkman

Then the excuse will be the O-Line couldn't protect him.

They'll be making excuses for Matt Cassel until the day he retires.

Here I am trying to be positive and you come in with that shit!!!!!!

[qabbaan]

Pioli wouldn't be dumb enough not to try to get Manning if he were available.

However, I think he still believes in Cassel. I think the chances Cassel starts Week 1 of 2012 AND 2013 are greater than 50%. We are married to him.

[milkman]

Damn it!

I want a divorce!

[xztop12]

Gabbaan, what makes you think Pioli would be dumb enough to start MC instead of Orton, who outplayed him with the same offense? We up to now have not had any better options at QB, so it's not like Pioli is ignoring them and insisting on Cassel.

The only player I can think of would be not drafting Clausen who has shown to be a bust, and a wise move for us

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by milkman

Then the excuse will be the O-Line couldn't protect him.

They'll be making excuses for Matt Cassel until the day he retires.

Matt, you see that blitzer lining up and overloading your right side. You might want to slide your protection over. If you have any questions ask Palko.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

“My hope and strong desire is to draft a quarterback every single year,” Pioli said. “There’s great value in that.

Best thing he's said all year, hopefully he means it.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by whoman69

So much fail in this post. There have been other options, we just haven't taken them. The fact that Palko was the prime competition for Cassel last year shows how deeply he has been entrenched. In many ways, he is the worst QB in the league. Even in his best season here, the Chiefs were 30th in passing yards. He's below average in YPA, completion % and in avoiding sacks. All that points to a big pile of suck. The only blind reerun rabble is you pretending that all the if only's in his career are just excuses.

Do tell. Who have all these better options than Cassel been? Don't point to having a better backup now, point to who all these QB's are that we missed better than Cassel.

The first time I recall being able to upgrade was when Orton hit the waiver wire, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Pioli pulled the trigger there.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by xztop12

I personally think Pioli is done with Matt.

Yes, all signs point to this.

If Scott Pioli was running a mall kiosk, some of you would buy all of his worthless shit.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by whoman69

Matt, you see that blitzer lining up and overloading your right side. You might want to slide your protection over. If you have any questions ask Palko.

Casey makes the protection calls.

So... the difference you guys saw between Cassel and Palko's protection calls was entirely imagined.

[BoneKrusher]

Originally Posted by qabbaan

We are married to him.

then, i want a Divorce asap.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by xztop12

Gabbaan, what makes you think Pioli would be dumb enough to start MC instead of Orton, who outplayed him with the same offense? We up to now have not had any better options at QB, so it's not like Pioli is ignoring them and insisting on Cassel.

The only player I can think of would be not drafting Clausen who has shown to be a bust, and a wise move for us

Did you say Orton outplayed Cassel in this offense? Maybe he moved it better, but from a TD standpoint both were equally inept. We were 2-1 with Orton because of the defense, not him.