Chiefs DeCastro anyone? - Page 6

tredadda · 03-17-2012, 08:31 PM

Now that we have our RT and missed out on the RGIII and Luck sweepstakes, how would people feel about drafting David DeCastro? The way I see it is unless we trade our first this year to someone for their first next year (assuming there is someone willing to do this) who else could we really use at #11? To me

1. Richardson will most likely be gone

2. Tannehill is a horrible idea at #11 assuming he is even there.

3. There are no NTs worth a #11 pick.

Why not get an elite guard and have a young monstrous O-Line with Albert-DeCastro-Hudson-Asamoah-Winston?

I am usually against the thought of drafting O-line in the first, but we are in a spot talent wise where he would be a great pickup since we will miss out on QB (clearly our biggest flaw) this year.

milkman · 03-17-2012, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

In the league?

Hmm...

AP
MJD
McFadden
Jamaal
Sproles
Lesean McCoy
Arian Foster
Marshawn Lynch
Matt Forte
Fred Jackson
Ray Rice

Possibly Demarco Murray, or he could have been a flash in the pan.

Any from the list you disagree with?

Because only three of those guys were first round picks. AP, Marshawn, and McFadden.

I would argue about a couple of others, but the ones I really would argue are McFadden, since he can't stay healthy, Marshawn Lynch, since he lacks consistency, Sproles, since he's part time utility player.

Mecca · 03-17-2012, 10:54 PM

Man Kellen Moore throws the ball like it's a roll of toilet paper, it's one thing to lack the skills it's another to be short and have no arm..

I like Brock Osweiler all the talent is there if you let him sit for a bit.

Mecca · 03-17-2012, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79

Isn't QB a moot point now with the signing of Quinn? They're not going to carry 4 QBs.

Sucks with you have Cassel wasting a roster spot huh?

Quinn's so bad Stanzi and a rookie could beat him out.

**Bowser** · 03-17-2012, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Man Kellen Moore throws the ball like it's a roll of toilet paper, it's one thing to lack the skills it's another to be short and have no arm..

I like Brock Osweiler all the talent is there if you let him sit for a bit.

Osweiler can look all world one play, then look worse than Palko the next. It would be a bitch trying to sack him, and he does have a cannon for an arm.....

suds79 · 03-17-2012, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Quinn's so bad Stanzi and a rookie could beat him out.

So you think they draft a QB and plan on cutting somebody? I just have a hard time seeing that.

MIAdragon · 03-17-2012, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm gonna ask in this thread..who's the sleeper QB that people like here?

Tennessee-Chattanooga B.J. Coleman

Mecca · 03-17-2012, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79

So you think they draft a QB and plan on cutting somebody? I just have a hard time seeing that.

Quinn seems like a just in case move to me, I doubt he got any money. I wouldn't be surprised if they took another QB.

tredadda · 03-17-2012, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79

Yeah I don't want Poe. As big of a need as NT is, Poe didn't dominate in college football. So pass.

This thread is all about "I want Decastro". If people get to say that then I get to say "I want a trade down".

That's my 1st choice. Now if they take Decastro I'll look at it this way. I'll say you shouldn't draft a Guard with that pick but by all accounts the kid is really good so I hope he ends up being great. In other words, I'll get over it.

Agree, I want to trade down first. Actually I want to trade out of the first altogether and get a first for next year. This scenario is assuming that we are stuck @ #11 this year.

KC Hawks · 03-17-2012, 10:59 PM

I'm usually against drafting a guard in the first round, but by all accounts DeCastro is an elite prospect. I wouldn't be upset with that pick, and our o-line would be set for the next few years.

However, if Richardson were available, then I definitely want him over DeCastro.

suds79 · 03-17-2012, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I like Brock Osweiler all the talent is there if you let him sit for a bit.

I'd definitely like to see the Chiefs take a chance on Osweiler but given that they'd have to take him relatively early, it's hard to fathom.

milkman · 03-17-2012, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Yes. It's just a changing facet of an ever-changing game.

Will there still be late round gems? Of course. Guys come out of nowhere. But the days of KNOWING that a guy was a sure-fire contributor, starter from day one, and you could just sit on it, because - hey, no one drafts guards in the first...well, those days are looking to be over.

I don't dismiss drafting gurad in the first round.

Just don't draft in the top 15.

tredadda · 03-17-2012, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I don't dismiss drafting gurad in the first round.

Just don't draft in the top 15.

But I don't see an elite Guard lasting past 15. Honestly what is the difference between drafting him at 11 and at 15 or 16?

tredadda · 03-17-2012, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Hawks

I'm usually against drafting a guard in the first round, but by all accounts DeCastro is an elite prospect. I wouldn't be upset with that pick, and our o-line would be set for the next few years.

However, if Richardson were available, then I definitely want him over DeCastro.

Not I just because RBs have such a short shelf life and a player like Richardson would have to share the load with Charles. If he were the 270-300 carry a season workhorse back maybe. But with the way NFL offenses are geared now he won't be. DeCastro baring injury will be in there for every offensive play, regardless of whether it is first or third and long.

BryanBusby · 03-17-2012, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm gonna ask in this thread..who's the sleeper QB that people like here?

I'd have to say Ryan Lindley. His 2011 season was disappointing, but I'd say losing the best coach San Diego State will probably ever have to Michigan and his top receiver to the NFL had something to do with that.

He's got all the physical tools, just needs to be paired with a good positional coach.

Oh Snap · 03-17-2012, 11:31 PM

I remember watching a game a few years back during the DV era. The commentators were saying how Vermiel viewed the offensive line as the "foundation" for which to build a team. Your offense will only be as good as your protection/run blocking.

Interesting to note that Al Saunders "Scheme" didn't seem to do jack shit when he left for Washington, or any other place he went to to coach as OC. During his tenure at KC, he was god. Hell, anyone remember Derrick Blaylock looking all-pro behind that line? Same with LJ, he was a god amongst men when we had the best OL in the game. Trent Green, who was a serviceable QB, (but not great) put up peyton manning type numbers behind that OL in the early-to-mid 2000's. Then Roaf retired, Green gets his head knocked off, and is never the same.

I think that a GREAT OL can actually make a talentless QB like Cassel look quite good. However, 11th overall pick for a Guard? That might be a bit of a reach.

03-17-2012, 08:31 PM
tredadda Three-Pat Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Springs Casino cash: $1855053	DeCastro anyone? Now that we have our RT and missed out on the RGIII and Luck sweepstakes, how would people feel about drafting David DeCastro? The way I see it is unless we trade our first this year to someone for their first next year (assuming there is someone willing to do this) who else could we really use at #11? To me 1. Richardson will most likely be gone 2. Tannehill is a horrible idea at #11 assuming he is even there. 3. There are no NTs worth a #11 pick. Why not get an elite guard and have a young monstrous O-Line with Albert-DeCastro-Hudson-Asamoah-Winston? I am usually against the thought of drafting O-line in the first, but we are in a spot talent wise where he would be a great pickup since we will miss out on QB (clearly our biggest flaw) this year.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2607050	Man Kellen Moore throws the ball like it's a roll of toilet paper, it's one thing to lack the skills it's another to be short and have no arm.. I like Brock Osweiler all the talent is there if you let him sit for a bit.
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KC Hawks Veteran Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The West Side Casino cash: $1494310	I'm usually against drafting a guard in the first round, but by all accounts DeCastro is an elite prospect. I wouldn't be upset with that pick, and our o-line would be set for the next few years. However, if Richardson were available, then I definitely want him over DeCastro.
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Oh Snap Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Casino cash: $9064925	I remember watching a game a few years back during the DV era. The commentators were saying how Vermiel viewed the offensive line as the "foundation" for which to build a team. Your offense will only be as good as your protection/run blocking. Interesting to note that Al Saunders "Scheme" didn't seem to do jack shit when he left for Washington, or any other place he went to to coach as OC. During his tenure at KC, he was god. Hell, anyone remember Derrick Blaylock looking all-pro behind that line? Same with LJ, he was a god amongst men when we had the best OL in the game. Trent Green, who was a serviceable QB, (but not great) put up peyton manning type numbers behind that OL in the early-to-mid 2000's. Then Roaf retired, Green gets his head knocked off, and is never the same. I think that a GREAT OL can actually make a talentless QB like Cassel look quite good. However, 11th overall pick for a Guard? That might be a bit of a reach.
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