**** The Official Chiefs Vs. Buffalo Thread****

[big nasty kcnut]

Game on players.

Passing Leaders

Kansas City CMP% YDS TD INT
M. Cassel 63.6 258 1 2
Buffalo CMP% YDS TD INT
R. Fitzpatrick56.3 195 3 3
Rushing Leaders
Kansas City CAR YDS AVG TD
J. Charles 16 87 5.4 0
S. Draughn 6 29 4.8 1
Buffalo CAR YDS AVG TD
C. Spiller 14 169 12.1 1
F. Jackson 6 15 2.5 0
Receiving Leaders
Kansas City REC YDS AVG TD
D. McCluster 6 82 13.7 0
D. Bowe 3 53 17.7 0
Buffalo REC YDS AVG TD
S. Johnson 4 55 13.8 1
D. Jones 5 41 8.2 1
Team Averages & NFL Ranks

TEAM OFFENSE TEAM PER GAME AVERAGE
Total Yards KC 393
BUF 390
Yards Passing KC 241
BUF 195
Yards Rushing KC 152
BUF 195
TEAM DEFENSE TEAM PER GAME AVERAGE
Yards Allowed KC 376
BUF 384
Pass Yds Allowed KC 292
BUF 266
Rush Yds Allowed KC 84
BUF 118
Head to Head Matchups (Since 2001)
Buffalo leads 4-3
Sep 11, 2011 KC 7, BUF 41
Oct 31, 2010 KC 13, BUF 10
Dec 13, 2009 KC 10, BUF 16
Nov 23, 2008 KC 31, BUF 54
Nov 13, 2005 KC 3, @BUF 14
Oct 26, 2003 KC 38, BUF 5
Nov 17, 2002 KC 17, BUF 16

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Munson

Stevie Johnson can die in an AIDS fire!

....after he delivers big time FF points this week.

Disgusting

[Rasputin]

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Munson

Stevie Johnson can die in an AIDS fire!

....after he delivers big time FF points this week.

Your mother smells of elderberries.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Munson

Stevie Johnson can die in an AIDS fire!

....after he delivers big time FF points this week.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Munson

Stevie Johnson can die in an AIDS fire!

....after he delivers big time FF points this week.

This is why fantasy football is ****ing gay.

[Munson]

Originally Posted by SNR

[Micjones]

/paybacksabitch

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

This is why fantasy football is ****ing gay.

I hate it. Last week at the game there were Chiefs fans cheering when Julio Jones scored that crack back block TD because he was on their fantasy team. It breeds bad fans.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

I hate it. Last week at the game there were Chiefs fans cheering when Julio Jones scored that crack back block TD because he was on their fantasy team. It breeds bad fans.

Matt Ryan's my FF QB. I didn't root for that ****er in ANY way.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Munson

Stevie Johnson can die in an AIDS fire!

....after he delivers big time FF points this week.

Don't be such a Munson

[Titty Meat]

LEGGO

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Babb piece...

Can Crennel still play bad cop with Chiefs?

Romeo Crennel walked past Eric Berry in the locker room last Sunday afternoon, then turned and headed back toward the third-year safety’s locker. Crennel wanted to speak to each player individually and leave them with a few encouraging words.

Crennel, the Chiefs’ coach, had just finished trying to explain to reporters why his team was blown out 40-24 by Atlanta and why his defense allowed the Falcons to score on their first eight possessions. Berry, like every other player, heard from Crennel that there were things to work on — but the season wouldn’t be graded after one loss. Berry nodded, and Crennel headed somewhere else.

Crennel’s words were more about reassurance than rubbing his players’ noses in it. This, most of the time, is the Romeo way.

“Instead of beating them up and beating them down for the outcome of the game,” Crennel said a few days later, recalling his message to players. “Hey, it’s one game. We have talent. We can do better. Let’s work to get better.”

It’s rare to see Crennel angry or short-tempered or even perturbed. Players have said that they love him for that. But beyond the locker room and organization, there is the question of whether Crennel is too nice to keep a team in line throughout a season.

Crennel doesn’t see this as a question at all. Did you hear about his halftime speech last year in Indianapolis? Nothing nice about that. Players and assistants suggest Crennel isn’t always the teddy bear he seems.

“You see one thing standing over here,” linebackers coach Gary Gibbs said while Crennel stood near a group of reporters, “and you see another thing when it’s inside (the team facility). And it’s all business.”

Perception, though, has a way of becoming reality when losses happen. When a team is blown out, the faintest doubts become real concerns. When former Chiefs coach Herm Edwards reached the playoffs in 2006, he was a popular coach who understood his players and could squeeze the best from them. When he went 4-12 and 2-14 the next two seasons, he was a man who didn’t possess the temperament to discipline and control his group.

Edwards’ successor, Todd Haley, was strict and demanding. When the Chiefs won the AFC West under Haley in 2010, the coach was a genius who used psychology to bring out his players’ best. But last year, when the Chiefs were 5-8 with three games to play, Haley was a madman whose methods threatened to polarize players — and he couldn’t be fired soon enough.

This is a no-patience society, and one that already has begun leaping to judgments about not only Crennel’s style, but also his shortcomings. When he led the Chiefs to an upset of undefeated Green Bay as interim coach last season, it was because players had rallied around the even-tempered Crennel. The opposite was considered this past week: Was the loss to Atlanta, piled onto a 1-3 preseason, partly a result of Crennel’s inability to energize his team?

Another loss today at Buffalo will only make the questions grow louder, the need to see a more demanding Crennel more desperate.

“I am who I am,” he said. “I’ve said that all along. I mean, I’ve been in this business a long time, had success in this business of being who I am.

“So I’m not going to change.”

Less than a year ago, Crennel stepped out of character. It’s what the situation called for, and his performance didn’t just take the Chiefs by surprise. It changed them.

“They needed to be addressed sternly,” he said months later. “They were addressed sternly.”

In the first half against Indianapolis, a team that would finish 2-14, the Chiefs had surrendered 24 points and 291 yards. Instead of Haley raining hell down on players, it was the Chiefs’ portly, mild-mannered defensive coordinator who stepped forward. He doesn’t deny that there might have been a few foul words as part of his speech.

“Might’ve been,” he said with a smile.

The Chiefs, whether awestruck or motivated by Crennel’s outburst, allowed zero points and 64 yards in the second half. Not only that, but the defense didn’t allow a touchdown in the next two games, and Crennel’s group had eight interceptions in the following two contests. The Chiefs left Indianapolis with a 28-24 win, and Crennel enjoyed renewed respect that had as much as anything to do with his elevation to interim head coach after Haley was fired, then his promotion weeks later to the permanent position.

“He got the players’ attention, without a doubt,” Gibbs said. “It was something the players needed to hear.”

But this is the NFL. Months have passed, and questions have resurfaced. Why did Crennel wait so long last season to assert himself? Why, if his speech was so successful, have similar eruptions been so rare?

In the NFL, the only thing more common than revisionist history is a wide spectrum of coaching personalities. Jets coach Rex Ryan has reached two AFC championship games by joking his way through news conferences and forging bonds with players. Bill Belichick has won three Super Bowls by being a robotic, snarling coach who seemingly sees players as chess pieces to move around to protect the king and attack the opposition.

Crennel’s personality is somewhere in the middle, and unlike Haley, he’s not the type to cry wolf with a constant barrage of intensity. Besides, he’s proud of his disposition because of how he developed it. He’s the son of an Army sergeant whose wife was the sensitive one. Joseph Crennel, Romeo says, “ran the household like he was in the Army; like he would run a platoon,” and Mary was a listener who would ask things of her children instead of commanding them.

Romeo found himself wired more like his mother, but he later learned that he couldn’t grow up in a military household without some of his father’s expectations and strictness bleeding their way in.

It’s not who he is; rather, it’s a small part of who he is. The point is, as the Chiefs learned in Indianapolis, it’s there.

“Some of that,” Crennel said, “is just inherent.”

But another question has yet to be answered: How many more losses will it take to see the sergeant emerge again?

Coaches have admitted for years that unifying a locker room — 53 different backgrounds, personalities, wants and needs — and keeping it that way is one of the job’s great challenges.

“It changes by player, because every individual is different,” Crennel said. “You need to know who you need to push, who you need to hug, who you need to be demanding on.”

He took over the Chiefs at a time of heightened expectations, a talented roster already in place, and with a kind of familiarity and faith from players that most new head coaches can only wish for.

But the trade is a lack of outside patience, and each time discipline or focus is the Chiefs’ issue or an offense runs over Crennel’s defense or a team blows out the Chiefs, it will be Crennel who carries the burden. It will not be forgotten — rather it will be magnified during those moments — that Crennel was 24-40 as Cleveland’s head coach. Players occasionally clashed, the Browns were often uncompetitive and Crennel was fired after the 2008 season.

When he has been the most successful, there often has been someone else to play the bad cop, allowing Crennel to remain calm and encouraging until desperate times emerge. Bill Parcells. Belichick. Haley. Still, Crennel said he didn’t defer the tough conversations to his bosses.

“I just worked for those guys,” he said. “I was still the same guy.”

Now, he has to wear both personalities, show all of himself, and maintain that difficult balance of encouraging some players and challenging others. Nothing about this is easy, and after bad days, Crennel will be reminded that fans aren’t interested in the reasons for a poor showing.

He says he can handle it, though, indicating that if things go as they did last Sunday at Arrowhead, players will see a coach who will have neither the time nor patience to go from player to player, offering calming words. No, Crennel said, he’s not too nice — but after one game, he should be hoping that’s something to just take his word for rather than something he’ll need to prove.

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/09/15...y-bad-cop.html

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Covitz...

Bills', Chiefs' QBs are under a microscope

The 2005 NFL Draft will be forever defined by two quarterbacks: Alex Smith, taken first overall by San Francisco, and Aaron Rodgers, selected 24th by Green Bay.

Rodgers led the Packers to a Super Bowl title in 2010 and was the league’s MVP in 2011, when he guided Green Bay to a 15-1 record. Smith sparked the 49ers to the NFC championship game last year.

Delve deeper into that draft, and you’ll find two quarterbacks taken in the seventh round. Matt Cassel was drafted by the New England Patriots with the 230th selection, and Ryan Fitzpatrick went 250th — five spots from Mr. Irrelevant status — to the St. Louis Rams.

Neither Cassel nor Fitzpatrick is with the team that selected him. New England dealt Cassel to the Chiefs in 2009. St. Louis traded Fitzpatrick to Cincinnati, and he signed with Buffalo as a free agent in 2009.

Cassel and Fitzpatrick meet at noon Sunday as quarterbacks at a crossroads when the Chiefs visit the Bills at Ralph Wilson Stadium in Orchard Park, N.Y.

Both were wildly inconsistent in their teams’ season-opening losses last week and face almost must-win situations, not only to avoid 0-2 starts but to keep their teams from getting buried in the standings before the end of September. Just check their upcoming schedules.

Cassel completed 10 of 12 passes for 128 yards and a touchdown in the first half but threw two interceptions and lost a fumble in the second half of the Chiefs’ 40-24 loss to Atlanta. He finished with a 72.5 passer rating.

Fitzpatrick was even worse in the Bills’ 48-28 road loss to the New York Jets. He was intercepted on Buffalo’s first two possessions, and a third interception was returned for a touchdown. Fitzpatrick’s rating was 66.5.

Cassel, who missed the last seven games of 2011 because of a broken hand, has lost his last three starts dating to last season and is 14-17 as the Chiefs’ starting quarterback.

Fitzpatrick, who threw four touchdown passes in leading the Bills to a 41-7 season-opening win over the Chiefs last year, is 2-9 since signing a six-year contract extension worth about $59 million last October. He has thrown 15 touchdown passes and 20 interceptions in those 11 games.

Fans are losing patience with both quarterbacks. Neither franchise has been a factor in the postseason for nearly two decades. The Chiefs haven’t won a playoff game since the 1993 season, while the Bills haven’t been to the playoffs since 1999 and haven’t won a playoff game since 1995.

Can Cassel deliver a division championship in an AFC West filled with former first-round picks Peyton Manning, Philip Rivers and Carson Palmer? Can Fitzpatrick win an AFC East that includes two first-round picks in the Jets’ Mark Sanchez and Tim Tebow, as well as New England’s Tom Brady, a sixth-round pick but a once-in-a-generation exception to every rule about quarterback pedigrees?

“We spend so much time talking about what a quarterback-driven league this is,” said NFL Network and NBC Sports analyst Mike Mayock. “And when I look at this league, there are 32 teams and I see seven franchise quarterbacks today. I see another four or five beyond that who I would take in a heartbeat, that either because of injury or not being with the right team or whatever, aren’t quite there yet but could be franchise quarterbacks.

“And then, after that, there is a group of four or five quarterbacks, of which Cassel and Fitzpatrick fit in, where I look at them and say, ‘If you can complement them with the run game and a defense and special teams, they’re capable of winning enough games to be a playoff quarterback.’ But they’re not going to be Tom Brady or Peyton Manning and stay at the line of scrimmage in a no-huddle and will their team to victory because of their talent.

“Both those guys are good enough to get in the playoffs, but you have to surround them with some pretty good people.”

Cassel led the Chiefs to a 10-6 record and the AFC West title in 2010 when all the stars aligned. The Chiefs took advantage of a favorable schedule, were remarkably injury-free and benefited from special-teams gaffes that cost San Diego several games, including the season opener at Arrowhead Stadium.

Former NFL quarterback Phil Simms, who was a first-round draft pick and a Super Bowl MVP, thinks Cassel is capable of replicating 2010.

“I don’t understand, every show I turn on TV and listen to (says), ‘Oh well, the Chiefs, they’ve got Matt Cassel,’ ” said Simms, the lead NFL analyst for CBS. “He did go to the Pro Bowl two years ago. He was playing in an offense not built for the quarterback to have success, and he did anyway. And last year, I watched him play. I don’t get what people are talking about. I’m not saying he’s the best in the league, but he’s good enough to lead a team to the playoffs, without a doubt.

“There are other problems. … I watched them quite a bit in the preseason, and I still see a fast team. My question is: Are they big enough and strong enough? ... Are they big enough on the defensive line to stop the four-and five-yard runs? And is the offensive line going to be good enough to give Matt Cassel a chance to show he has talent to get it done?”

Chiefs head coach Romeo Crennel has not lost faith in Cassel, but he clearly was disappointed in his quarterback’s second-half play against Atlanta, especially when he threw an interception on a play where it would have been better to take a sack or throw the ball away.

“I’ve said all along that Matt is a good, solid quarterback,” Crennel said. “He’s taken us to the playoffs before. I think that he has capabilities of taking us to the playoffs again. He’s going to work to try and get that done.”

Cassel’s teammates also have his back.

“We have supreme confidence in Matt,” said tackle Eric Winston. “Matt’s natural gifts are going to allow him to do some pretty special things. Cassel has won a lot of games in this league. He’s been on a lot of great teams, and it’s for a reason — because he’s a special player. Does he wish he had a couple plays back? Sure, we all wish we had a couple of plays back.

“Quarterback is such a tough position, and there are so many things that go on around them that they have no control of. It’s almost like a head coach. You’re blamed for everything that goes bad. … When your team is playing well, everyone is playing well around you. And when your team’s not doing well, then it’s just your fault.”

Adding to the importance of Sunday’s game is history: The Chiefs have made the playoffs just once after an 0-2 start, and it took an unlikely series of results on the final Sunday of the 2006 season for them to grab the sixth seed.

“Right now,” Cassel said, “our main focus is trying to get to 1-1, just win one ballgame.”

Fitzpatrick, the only Buffalo quarterback besides Hall of Famer Jim Kelly to record 3,000-yard passing seasons in consecutive years, still feels like that seventh-rounder from Harvard who’s trying to prove himself.

“Every year you go into you have to prove who you are and what kind of player you are,” Fitzpatrick said. “That is not just for me. That is for the elite guys, too. I am sure Aaron Rodgers feels like he has a lot to prove going into the year. I probably have more to prove than the other guys.”

Even though one of these two quarterbacks will be 0-2 after Sunday, Mayock says it will still be too early to panic.

“Last year, Matt Cassel did not play with a full (starting unit) with all the injuries surrounding his key people,” Mayock said. “I would say: Take a step back, and let’s let both those teams get through four or five games and (then) we’ll start figuring out what they’re going to be, what their identity is.

“Can Kansas City run the ball with Jamaal Charles and (Peyton) Hillis? If they can do that and protect the quarterback, and Dwayne Bowe gets himself back in shape, you have a chance to move the football a lot more consistently. I know we’re a knee-jerk-reaction society, but we’ve got to have some patience.”

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/09/15...icroscope.html

[FloridaMan88]

The Chiefs will get raped, Fat Scott's arteries will continue to harden, the bulge in Clark's pants continues to harden at the thought of another profitable season and the dumbshit homers on this board will continue to defend this trainwreck of a franchise.

Just another Sunday in hell.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by Hugh Janus

The Chiefs will get raped, Fat Scott's arteries will continue to harden, the bulge in Clark's pants continues to harden at the thought of another profitable season and the dumbshit homers on this board will continue to defend this trainwreck of a franchise.

Just another Sunday in hell.

So you're saying there's a chance?