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Old 01-20-2013, 03:20 PM  
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Bruce Arians is off to a rocky, rocky start
I know, I know. I've said a lot about this. But I swear, there's new information in here that hasn't been brought up on CP. Be glad the Chiefs didn't hire him. I give him 2-3 years tops before he's on the hot seat.

Here's what we're learning:
  • Like ***** and Carl Peterson, he hires his croney friends. "There will be a common thread in this coaching staff," he said. "They will have either played for me, coached for me, some as far back as 30 years." Uh oh.
  • He demanded that Todd Bowles be his guy. The guy is going to be a disaster of a DC. Uh oh.
  • Remember that shitty 2-gap scheme that's outdated and ineffective? Guess who's spent almost his entire career coaching it? That's right. Todd Bowles. More than likely, he's replacing a perfectly good scheme for a shitty one.
  • jasonsauto, this one's for you. There is growing proof that Arians was going to hire Bowles no matter what. See the links below.
  • Arians wants to coach and call plays, and he hired a ridiculous inexperienced yes-man to be his OC. Isn't it clear this is a lousy model?

Dare I say... he's about to build Kansas City West?


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...out-in-arizona

http://www.revengeofthebirds.com/201...s-taking-shape
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:33 PM   #16
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Even if Reid will call the plays, he also hired a strong assistant in Brad Childress who will undoubtedly be heavily involved in gameplanning.
Did I miss something?
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:33 PM   #17
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Rip Reid if you're going to rip Arians for hiring an OC with no previous experience at OC and him calling plays.
Why would you rip Reid when he's been there, done it, is a proven HC and has shown the ability to lead teams in the past. He has experience on his side. Arians gets ripped cause he's never proven that he could handle these duties.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:34 PM   #18
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Yet another douchebag trying to feel vindicated. Lets go ahead and wait for the next season to start before passing any negative judgement.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:35 PM   #19
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Why would you rip Reid when he's been there, done it, is a proven HC and has shown the ability to lead teams in the past. He has experience on his side. Arians gets ripped cause he's never proven that he could handle these duties.
Did he call plays this year?
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Why would you rip Reid when he's been there, done it, is a proven HC and has shown the ability to lead teams in the past. He has experience on his side. Arians gets ripped cause he's never proven that he could handle these duties.
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Rob Chudzinski. Chip Kelly. Mike McCoy. All offensive guys with a TON of offensive playcalling experience. Guess what? All three of them hired a highly experienced offensive coordinator (Norv, Shurmur, Whisenhunt).

Why are we applauding this? I hate the idea of head coaches also being coordinators (as much as I've defended Haley, this is a decision I thought was dumb from the top-down).
I dont know why you are addressing this to me.
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I dont know why you are addressing this to me.
He's an idiot?
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And it's funny that he says as much as he's defended Haley he thought the decision to call the plays was dumb from the top down.

Are you blaming someone other than Haley for that?
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Why would you rip Reid when he's been there, done it, is a proven HC and has shown the ability to lead teams in the past. He has experience on his side. Arians gets ripped cause he's never proven that he could handle these duties.
I'm not saying Reid won't succeed in KC, but if you rip Arians for hiring an OC who has no previous experience and Arians will call the plays, would it not be fair to do the same with Reid?
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Rip Reid if you're going to rip Arians for hiring an OC with no previous experience at OC and him calling plays.
These aren't the same thing. Trust me, I'm not a Reid cheerleader, so I'm not creating a double standard here. Reid hired a very experienced offensive guy in Childress who will undoubtedly help Reid in coordinating the offense and preparing the game plans. Arians is going to be playing a full time role as offensive coordinator, while being a head coach too -- the OC he hired is probably purely following Arians' marching orders.

Arians is about to repeat the same dumb mistake Haley made in 2009, when he underestimated the massive amount of work he will have to do on the administrative and leadership side of being a head coach. Haley looked unbelievably stressed his first year. Reid has done this for many years. He has shown he can do this, and my guess is, that as Pederson becomes more experienced Reid will let Pederson have more control over the offense.
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These aren't the same thing. Trust me, I'm not a Reid cheerleader, so I'm not creating a double standard here. Reid hired a very experienced offensive guy in Childress who will undoubtedly help Reid in coordinating the offense and preparing the game plans. Arians is going to be playing a full time role as offensive coordinator, while being a head coach too -- the OC he hired is probably purely following Arians' marching orders.

Arians is about to repeat the same dumb mistake Haley made in 2009, when he underestimated the massive amount of work he will have to do on the administrative and leadership side of being a head coach. Haley looked unbelievably stressed his first year. Reid has done this for many years. He has shown he can do this, and my guess is, that as Pederson becomes more experienced Reid will let Pederson have more control over the offense.
You keep saying Reid hired Childress. Can you link that for us?
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Reid hired a very experienced offensive guy in Childress who will undoubtedly help Reid in coordinating the offense and preparing the game plans.
Seriously... what did I miss?
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You keep saying Reid hired Childress. Can you link that for us?
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And it's funny that he says as much as he's defended Haley he thought the decision to call the plays was dumb from the top down.

Are you blaming someone other than Haley for that?
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No. Haley gets most of the blame for that. It was his call and it was a dumb one. But this is also one of those areas where ***** should have known better than to allow a young guy like Haley have that much responsibility. Funny that ***** was pushy about making stupid decisions, but not pushy enough about making the right decisions when needed.
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These aren't the same thing. Trust me, I'm not a Reid cheerleader, so I'm not creating a double standard here. Reid hired a very experienced offensive guy in Childress who will undoubtedly help Reid in coordinating the offense and preparing the game plans. Arians is going to be playing a full time role as offensive coordinator, while being a head coach too -- the OC he hired is probably purely following Arians' marching orders.

Arians is about to repeat the same dumb mistake Haley made in 2009, when he underestimated the massive amount of work he will have to do on the administrative and leadership side of being a head coach. Haley looked unbelievably stressed his first year. Reid has done this for many years. He has shown he can do this, and my guess is, that as Pederson becomes more experienced Reid will let Pederson have more control over the offense.
Goodwin has previous experience for helping to draw up a game plan for the offense with Pittsburgh as a quality control coach.

Arians has more experience as a coach before he was hired as HC than Haley did.
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