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Old 02-16-2013, 08:14 PM  
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Will the SOC fire up if no QB in the first?
Just curious. I hope so because it would royally be depressing.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:56 PM   #196
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No you wanna know why prick? Because I ****in refuse to go around and round with this because you assholes are shoot holes in anything I bring up.Besides that you two are worth my ****in time. If you two wanna pay me $200.00 each I will gladly let you shoot holes in anything you want all day long.


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I have completely given up on Alex Smith as a qb. Its painful to watch. Like, worse than watching Colt McCoy.
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Old 02-18-2013, 05:01 PM   #197
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But if you look at the last offseason QB change he made, it wasn't to draft another QB and start over - it was to turn the reins over to Michael Vick.
After over a decade on the job and desperately needing to win now to keep his job. Completely not applicable to the situation here in KC.

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it's not a given that he won't want to start with a veteran.
It's not a given that he will either.
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Old 02-18-2013, 05:21 PM   #198
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After over a decade on the job and desperately needing to win now to keep his job. Completely not applicable to the situation here in KC.



It's not a given that he will either.
He didn't "need" to try to save his job. As we saw this offseason, he was far and away the hottest coaching prospect on the market. He needed that job in Philly like he needed another nose. He knew and always knew that he could have another job inside of a week in most cities in the league.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:00 PM   #199
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How many retread QBs have the Chiefs had in the last 30 years? And how many playoff games have they won with them?
I notice that you arbitrarily chose 30 years. I'm sure that was just a coincidence and that you didn't deliberately exclude Len Dawson, who led the Chiefs to three AFL championships and two Super Bowls. I realize that it's ancient history and not really relevant to today's NFL, but if you're going to go back 30 years to make a point, you might as well be honest about it and go back 40 years.
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By the way, on that list above, there's only TWO of them that played in the modern NFL era and Favre was actually traded to the Packers BEFORE the modern era of free agency.

The only QB that could even remotely be considered a "recent" example is Kurt Warner. Ironically, he won his 1st Super Bowl with the team that "drafted" him (he wasn't drafted, he was a free agent, but it was his first NFL team).
I think we all forgot about Drew Brees. He's not bad for a retread quarterback. Admittedly he is the exception and not the rule, but it proves pretty convincingly that it is POSSIBLE to win the whole thing with a retread quarterback. I think the Saints are pretty glad to have their retread.

Now that I've made that point, I think I'll stop arguing in this thread for two reasons: (1) I want the Chiefs to draft Geno Smith, and (2) It just feels wrong to be on the same side of this argument with Tony77. His arguments are pathetic.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:54 PM   #200
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Yes, because you obviously know a hell of lot more about Nick Foles than Andy Reid does. You saw him practice every day last year, you saw every snap that he played in every game last year, and you scouted him before you drafted him.

You also obviously know a hell of a lot more about the quarterbacks in the upcoming draft than Andy Reid and John Dorsey do, because your full-time job is to evaluate players and you have access to all of the scouting information that they do.

I'm not saying you should put blind faith in Reid and Dorsey. But you idiots who stubbornly insist that you are the experts and you know more than Reid and Dorsey are delusional, and you shouldn't be surprised that you are mocked and ridiculed.
This "argument" is the reason I carry a baseball bat in the car at all times.
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:22 PM   #201
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:36 PM   #202
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:30 AM   #203
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:51 AM   #204
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I notice that you arbitrarily chose 30 years. I'm sure that was just a coincidence and that you didn't deliberately exclude Len Dawson, who led the Chiefs to three AFL championships and two Super Bowls. I realize that it's ancient history and not really relevant to today's NFL, but if you're going to go back 30 years to make a point, you might as well be honest about it and go back 40 years.
Why would I include Len Dawson? He played in an era where football was a SECOND JOB.

What Len Dawson did in the era of single bar facemasks is hardly relevant in 2013.

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I think we all forgot about Drew Brees. He's not bad for a retread quarterback. Admittedly he is the exception and not the rule, but it proves pretty convincingly that it is POSSIBLE to win the whole thing with a retread quarterback. I think the Saints are pretty glad to have their retread.
You said it yourself - Brees is the exception to the rule. And remember, we root for the Chiefs. If it's bad, and it can happen, it will happen to US.

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Now that I've made that point, I think I'll stop arguing in this thread for two reasons: (1) I want the Chiefs to draft Geno Smith, and (2) It just feels wrong to be on the same side of this argument with Tony77. His arguments are pathetic.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:49 AM   #208
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Youre stupid... Your bat is worthless. I carry a .380 and a .45 in my car at all times...

Sucks to be the moron with the baseball bat...
and YOU, mother****er, from what I'VE read thus far, should not even attempt to operate a ****ing merry-go-round much less a goddamned firearm!
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