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Old 02-27-2013, 12:45 PM  
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Old 09-19-2013, 08:10 AM   #4411
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It matters that he doesn't piss down his leg and screw it up and of course he still need to show up and be competent... but, in the big picture, talking about what's required to win in the playoffs, being efficient against teams like Jacksonville and Dallas doesn't really mean anything. That's why that 21-5 stat (or whatever) is kind of pointless when looking at needs to be done to win hardware... you could have plugged in at least half the starting quarterbacks in the league on that team and they would have put up that kind of record.

Wow. Okay, I was definitely open to you being open. But after this? and the seeming reality that I never really see you post this much in other threads?

I think we all know where you are at now... which is fine.. but at least it's pretty clear now. Just wow. 21-5 winning % is pointless... and just about any QB can protect the ball, make smart decisions, and make the throws when most needed.... okay... that's just super.
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Old 09-19-2013, 08:10 AM   #4412
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No idea, man. I think he is capable, if the nuances of the game force his hand. Alex does have a decent 47% completion percentage on his deep throws. I sure wish he had a Calvin Johnson/Mike Wallace target to feel more comfortable going deep to. Maybe Avery will suffice... maybe Bowe can win some jump balls.

I have always wanted to see Smith make a handful or so of deep post or fly throws. As per usual, his pass protection and game circumstances tend to keep those attempts down. Maybe it IS part of his unwillingness too... but again, the combination of poor pass pro + underwhelming deep threats + lack of deep shots can't be dismissed. They have surrounded Alex for years now.
Well he does have a 2-27-1 record when the other team scores 24 or more so the track record isn't good when the other side put up some points. Let's hope that changes.
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Old 09-19-2013, 08:12 AM   #4413
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Well he does have a 2-27-1 record when the other team scores 24 or more so the track record isn't good when the other side put up some points. Let's hope that changes.
another look at career stats... w/o regard to this team's past coaching and personnel misery... w/o regard to the way the 49ers were built... and that they were very ill suited in the first place to come back from large deficits...

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Old 09-19-2013, 08:15 AM   #4414
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another look at career stats... w/o regard to this team's past coaching and personnel misery... w/o regard to the way the 49ers were built... and that they were very ill suited in the first place to come back from large deficits...

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Old 09-19-2013, 08:16 AM   #4415
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another look at career stats... w/o regard to this team's past coaching and personnel misery... w/o regard to the way the 49ers were built... and that they were very ill suited in the first place to come back from large deficits...

Oh, we have a special kind of morning so far.
The chiefs are not built to overcome a 3 score deficit in the 4th quarter either...
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The chiefs are not built to overcome a 3 score deficit in the 4th quarter either...
It would seem that way, but I think it could be a little early to say that with any certainty.
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Old 09-19-2013, 08:38 AM   #4418
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Old 09-19-2013, 08:46 AM   #4419
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Wow. Okay, I was definitely open to you being open. But after this? and the seeming reality that I never really see you post this much in other threads?

I think we all know where you are at now... which is fine.. but at least it's pretty clear now. Just wow. 21-5 winning % is pointless... and just about any QB can protect the ball, make smart decisions, and make the throws when most needed.... okay... that's just super.
Well, I didn't say it was completely pointless, I said it was pointless when trying to determine if a quarterback is capable of a deep playoff run/winning hardware. It's really no different than what I've been saying all along to those who think the past two games really matter. 18 of those 21 wins came against teams that didn't get past the first round of the playoffs, and in 2011, the NFCW and NFCE were possibly the worst divisions in the league (outside of SF). Those 18 wins just aren't all that relevant to the discussion we've been having for the past 2 weeks, just like Cassel's 10 wins that included several games against the two worst divisions in 2010 didn't matter when he went up against the Ravens in the playoffs. As far as those 21 wins, the Saints playoff game obviously matters, as does beating the Packers.... those are the games he can hang his hat on and say he has what it takes to beat the big boys.

I also didn't say 'just about any QB'... I said at least half of all starting QBs. Smith had the 9th best QB rating in 2011 and 6 other guys were within about 5 points of that... 19th in yards, 17th in TDs, but pretty efficient... so yeah, I don't think it's stretch to say any QB with an ~85 rating (half the league) could do about as well as a guy who ended up with a 90 rating. Cassel, who some say is clearly an inferior QB, had almost identical stats in 2010.
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The chiefs are not built to overcome a 3 score deficit in the 4th quarter either...
It happens but how many times a year does a team come back from three scores down? How many teams are built to come from three scores down? Three score down they're laughing and drinking and having a party!
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Yes, since Kaepernick is 4-3-1 when the opposing teams scores 24 or more already. That's crazy. 80+ games for Alice to win 2. 10 games for Kaep to win 4.
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The chiefs are not built to overcome a 3 score deficit in the 4th quarter either...
What team is, especially in the 4th quarter?

If they were ever faced with that, it would be interesting to see how they would attack it. They have WRs with speed that would probably get more targets, so who knows.

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What is the threshold for not sucking?

Seems there are 2 categories for QBs here: Suck and Elite.
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It happens but how many times a year does a team come back from three scores down? How many teams are built to come from three scores down? Three score down they're laughing and drinking and having a party!
The point being that we don't have a confident and quick strike passing offense yet.

It might happen this season. Who knows. Right now though I don't see us getting down big and being a quick strike offense like the Packers/Donks/Saints/Falcons/Lions...
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What team is, especially in the 4th quarter?

If they were ever faced with that, it would be interesting to see how they would attack it. They have WRs with speed that would probably get more targets, so who knows.

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The Falcons, Broncos, Saints, Packers, maybe the Patriots once their WR's come around.
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