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Old 03-15-2013, 07:48 AM  
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Mike and Mike Talking about Geno going #1 overall
It was just a matter of time. Obviously the Chiefs don't need him but they are helping create a market for a trade.

Apparently Jaws loves the kid.
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Old 03-18-2013, 09:30 PM   #466
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Yes, you did.

Fish said that QB's and LT's bust at an equal rate. That is absolutely untrue, as illustrated by 2007.

If you want to bring up guys from 20 years ago, fine. I can, too. But there have been very few LT busts as compared to QB busts in the last decade.
One draft class is representative of that? I'd think you'd have to do it by percentages. Take the bust-to-success percentage of LTs and also for QBs in the first round over the last ten years or something.
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Old 03-18-2013, 09:39 PM   #467
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One draft class is representative of that? I'd think you'd have to do it by percentages. Take the bust-to-success percentage of LTs and also for QBs in the first round over the last ten years or something.
Even if you were to do that, the only bust that I can think of is Jason Smith, which was a ridiculous reach pick by an overmatched and incompetent front office and coaching staff.
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Old 03-18-2013, 09:45 PM   #468
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Reid is easier and quicker to type. And you had a player named Dorsey so I got use to just using Reid.
Fair, but I meant it in general, not just towards you. Perhaps they have the same reason, but whether it be fans or media it seems some either don't believe Dorsey has real power or don't even know he exists(media).
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Old 03-18-2013, 09:50 PM   #469
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Fair, but I meant it in general, not just towards you. Perhaps they have the same reason, but whether it be fans or media it seems some either don't believe Dorsey has real power or don't even know he exists(media).
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:26 PM   #470
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QB's have been busting less as of late, but they do bust more often than LT's.

Honestly though, all positions bust. There's no such thing as a sure fire pick.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:50 PM   #471
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Why are we assuming Fisher and Joeckel are the only 2 tackles in this draft worth a damn. I believe I heard that this draft is the deepest along the lines. Moving back to 7 or 8 won't stop us from getting someone we want.
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:55 AM   #472
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QB's have been busting less as of late, but they do bust more often than LT's.

Honestly though, all positions bust. There's no such thing as a sure fire pick.
Define bust.

Almost 50% of 1st round QBs have contributed to a winning team.

For LTs, that number is 21%.

TWENTY ONE PERCENT.

That's right - if you HIT on your LT, it won't help your team WIN.
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:01 AM   #473
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Define bust.

Almost 50% of 1st round QBs have contributed to a winning team.

For LTs, that number is 21%.

TWENTY ONE PERCENT.

That's right - if you HIT on your LT, it won't help your team WIN.
As evidenced by the Chiefs HAVING 2 very good tackles last year and winning TWO games. Rep.
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:30 AM   #474
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No, they're not.

In 2007, two QB's and two left tackles were taken in the first round. Brady Quinn and JaMarcus Russell both busted.

Joe Thomas and Joe Staley did not.




The risk of busting appears to be much greater with a QB taken #1 overall than a left tackle taken #1 overall.

At this point, it doesn't even matter because the Chiefs have chosen their QB for 2013, so a QB at #1 overall won't be the selection.
Ohh you found one year where there was an exception? Well I guess that's that. LOL...

I don't find your example to be convincing. Joe Thomas hasn't made much of a difference to his team obviously. Because the QBs he's been protecting have been dog shit, they haven't won anything. And Joe Staley hasn't either, until his team finally got some elite QB play. Imagine that......
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Reid said just because Chiefs traded for Alex Smith "doesn't mean Geno is out of the water."
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Andy Reid says he'll evaluate 8-10 players for No. 1 pick. Asked why Alex over Geno Smith: "Doesn't mean Geno is out of the water." Smiles.
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Andy Reid says he'll evaluate 8-10 players for No. 1 pick. Asked why Alex over Geno Smith: "Doesn't mean Geno is out of the water." Smiles.
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String'em on, Andy!
No doubt. Obviously trying to create a trade market for number 1. I like it no matter what angle he's taking.
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