Chiefs If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. - Page 93

ShowtimeSBMVP · 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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Ninjafitz · 05-12-2013, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

So another mult...

mult?

Sandy Vagina · 05-12-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninjafitz

mult?

Probably accusing you of being one poster with multiple accounts. People struggle to believe that there can be a number of other people that have differing perspectives and opinions. So if you like Smith and think he's good or decent, it's important for them to believe that "WE" are just ONE poster... using multiple usernames... to spew your "pro-Alex garbage."

Go Alex!!! Go Chiefs!!!

Ninjafitz · 05-12-2013, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

Probably accusing you of being one poster with multiple accounts. People struggle to believe that there can be a number of other people that have differing perspectives and opinions. So if you like Smith and think he's good or decent, it's important for them to believe that "WE" are just ONE poster... using multiple usernames... to spew your "pro-Alex garbage."

Go Alex!!! Go Chiefs!!!

i have no reason to do that. I am very pro alex and I can give you guys plenty of stats and info on alex that show he is a good qb. There will be people that never believe it though. Some people have their minds made up and will never admit they were wrong even if Alex has a good year they will devalue it and say well for this many years he sucked so 1-2 good years doesnt make upf for that. Trust me I have heard it all before

Sandy Vagina · 05-12-2013, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninjafitz

i have no reason to do that. I am very pro alex and I can give you guys plenty of stats and info on alex that show he is a good qb. There will be people that never believe it though. Some people have their minds made up and will never admit they were wrong even if Alex has a good year they will devalue it and say well for this many years he sucked so 1-2 good years doesnt make upf for that. Trust me I have heard it all before

I have been dealing with the stupidity for many years. I agree with you... at some point though, the talk is pointless. Like you said, minds can't be changed. Oh well. Good thing Alex doesn't rely on the ignorance from fans on a forum or in the stadium. He just does his thing, and gets better as he goes.

**Rausch** · 05-12-2013, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninjafitz

i have no reason to do that. I am very pro alex and I can give you guys plenty of stats and info on alex that show he is a good qb.

I didn't see any of that...

splatbass · 05-12-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

And why do you emphasize throwing it downfield every day? I didn't realize we were throwing it deep every time we pass.

If some of these guys had their way we would be throwing deep on every down. They only want to see the big plays, just like they only want to draft "playmakers". Their team would suck, but they would never "check down".

splatbass · 05-12-2013, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I am very bitter for another wasted opportunity to draft a top prospect and take a chance on a quarterback.

What top prospect did we waste the opportunity to draft? In case you didn't notice, the entire NFL didn't think any of them were top prospects. There were a bunch of teams with needs for a QB early in the first round and NONE of them drafted a QB.

Kaepernick · 05-12-2013, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Uh....Those 9er defenses of the 80s and 90s were outstanding defenses.

Don't get carried away.

I completely agree with you. You are making my point.

Joe Montana was the "Comeback Kid" yet he never had more than 3- 4th quarter comebacks in any year that he had a great Defense. He had had 2- 4th quarter comebacks in 1984, 1 in 1985 and 1 in 1986.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...layer=MontJo01

My point is, the 49ers had 6- 4th quarter comebacks in 2011 despite a defense as good as those Defenses Montana had. The 49ers should never have had to comeback 6 times in 2011, as they would not have with a Montana lead offense. Who was QB in 2011?

That is my point.

milkman · 05-12-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

If some of these guys had their way we would be throwing deep on every down. They only want to see the big plays, just like they only want to draft "playmakers". Their team would suck, but they would never "check down".

No one, ever, has stated that you need to go downfield every play.

But you do need to take your shots, and they can not be limited to just sure things like Alex Smith does.

3-4 shots downfield a game opens up things underneath, and running lanes for your ball carriers.

If you only take a shot here and there, then you wind up having defenses stacking the box against you more than any team in the league, much like teams did against, oh, I don't know, the 9ers, with Smith under center.

patteeu · 05-12-2013, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

Probably accusing you of being one poster with multiple accounts. People struggle to believe that there can be a number of other people that have differing perspectives and opinions. So if you like Smith and think he's good or decent, it's important for them to believe that "WE" are just ONE poster... using multiple usernames... to spew your "pro-Alex garbage."

Go Alex!!! Go Chiefs!!!

I think you guys should all end every post with that just to confuse them further.

ChiefsCountry · 05-12-2013, 01:50 PM

Here is what I expect Alex Smith to do this year:

56% Completion Percentage
3690 yards
20 TDs
19 Ints
36 Sacks

Hope I am wrong but that is the season I expect out of him.

R8RFAN · 05-12-2013, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

they got ****ed so hard in this trade it is mind blowing....we're looking at the possibility of 2 high round seconds for a backup QB that takes us to 8-8 (aka "the Chiefs Superbowl")

IN hindsight, is this trade as epic as the Carson Palmer trade?

patteeu · 05-12-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

No one, ever, has stated that you need to go downfield every play.

But you do need to take your shots, and they can not be limited to just sure things like Alex Smith does.

3-4 shots downfield a game opens up things underneath, and running lanes for your ball carriers.

If you only take a shot here and there, then you wind up having defenses stacking the box against you more than any team in the league, much like teams did against, oh, I don't know, the 9ers, with Smith under center.

One thing that has prevented the Chiefs from taking 3-4 shots down the field each game over the past several years has been an inability to make first downs with some regularity. If your drives regularly last at least 7-10 plays, you're going to end up with more downfield shots than if you go typically go 3 and out.

milkman · 05-12-2013, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

One thing that has prevented the Chiefs from taking 3-4 shots down the field each game over the past several years has been an inability to make first downs with some regularity. If your drives regularly last at least 7-10 plays, you're going to end up with more downfield shots than if you go typically go 3 and out.

And in spite of that, as Claythan has pointed out a number of times, Matt Cassel has gone deep with more regularity than Alex Smith.

Rasputin · 05-12-2013, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

What top prospect did we waste the opportunity to draft? In case you didn't notice, the entire NFL didn't think any of them were top prospects. There were a bunch of teams with needs for a QB early in the first round and NONE of them drafted a QB.

Geno Smith that is who. For what ever reason he got a bad rap but I think he is going to use that as motivation. I see a guy who is going put the work in to be the best he can turn out to be.

His talent skill sets are top notch quarterback quality. It would have been fun to see him play as a Chief grow and develop into what his potential could be after several years. He would have been worth the risk to take a chance on to find out if we could be rewarded for it.

No chance No risk No reward. No chance doesn't matter we got a RTotf / True fan gif.

05-06-2013, 07:21 AM
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3646009	If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season. So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way. Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...#ixzz2SWCd8Gea
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