Royals (New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository - Page 15

duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

**Shogun** · 08-18-2013, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog

Well maybe some people in Olathe would still like to meet him. I have and he is a genuinely fun loving kid with a huge smile. I wasn't here to talk about his lack of power.

So fist yourself.

IM FROM OLATHE AND I CAN TELL YOU THIS. I DONT WANT THIS NO HITTIN' SISSY GIRL NEAR MY HOLIDAY IN OR ANY OF THAT JIB JABBER

I'll be there.

AussieChiefsFan · 08-19-2013, 12:13 AM

Division

Wildcard

Discuss Thrower · 08-19-2013, 12:19 AM

Perez will get his bat working to full effect once he dons pinstripes in 2015.

OmahaChief · 08-19-2013, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Perez will get his bat working to full effect once he dons pinstripes in 2015.

Hudler is that you?

Great Expectations · 08-19-2013, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Yeah, we're talking about this year. I don't think there's any doubt that Duffy's in the rotation next year.

I would imagine that next year, our rotation will look like this:

1. Shields
2. Guthrie
3. Duffy
4. Davis
5. Ventura/FA option

I think we could win with:

1. Shields
2. FA
3. Guthrie
4. Duffy
5. Ventura/FA/Smith

Chris Dwyer has also looked better in Omaha this year. We need to sign a 2B and a P. There should be plenty of money available.

What would it take to make a qualifying offer to Hoch? If he accepted and didn't sign elsewhere is it too much money to be paying a reliever?

Davis could take his place in the bull pen next year.

Prison Bitch · 08-19-2013, 07:28 AM

Team's gonna be the exact same next year - good pitching, struggling to score, finish about .500

Great Expectations · 08-19-2013, 07:41 AM

Colon hit another HR.

BigCatDaddy · 08-19-2013, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations

Colon hit another HR.

That's nice and all, but can he bunt?

**ChiTown** · 08-19-2013, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Yeah, we're talking about this year. I don't think there's any doubt that Duffy's in the rotation next year.

I would imagine that next year, our rotation will look like this:

1. Shields
2. Guthrie
3. Duffy
4. Davis
5. Ventura/FA option

I don't want to see Wade "Kyle Davies" Davis anywhere near our starting rotation in 2014. I get diarrhea every-time I watch him pitch.

**RockChalk** · 08-19-2013, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown

I don't want to see Wade "Kyle Davies" Davis anywhere near our starting rotation in 2014. I get diarrhea every-time I watch him pitch.

You should go see a doctor for that

BlackHelicopters · 08-19-2013, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations

Colon hit another HR.

Is his wife hot?

**ChiTown** · 08-19-2013, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk

You should go see a doctor for that

It's an allergic reaction. The only medication is to make sure he's not in the starting rotation. DO IT, DAYTON! PLEASE!

**RockChalk** · 08-19-2013, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown

It's an allergic reaction. The only medication is to make sure he's not in the starting rotation. DO IT, DAYTON! PLEASE!

Does Pepto and beer go well together? Because you should probably get a few cases of both for the remainder of this season and 2014

Lex Luthor · 08-19-2013, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Perez will get his bat working to full effect once he dons pinstripes in 2015.

Since Salvador Perez is in year #2 of an 8 year contract, I doubt he'll be donning pinstripes any time soon.

http://www.royalsreview.com/2012/2/2...ract-breakdown

P-90Rex · 08-19-2013, 11:39 AM

This team still needs a power bat in RF, preferably a right handed power bat. Lough would be fantastic as a fourth option, especially considering Cain's injury problems.

If Gordon and Butler are 15 hr guys, Moose (if he puts together a full season) and Hosmer are 20 hr guys, we still need a big bat in the middle. Perez might hit for more power eventually, but I wouldn't count on it for next year.

When the back end of your lineup and the lead off hitter runs through some combo of Escobar/Getz/Bonifacio/Lough/Dyson...ugh...that's four players in a row that instill no fear in the opposing pitcher.

08-15-2013, 08:13 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1750308	(New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository New thread, this time with more burst. Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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P-90Rex Starter Join Date: Jun 2012 Casino cash: $10004985	This team still needs a power bat in RF, preferably a right handed power bat. Lough would be fantastic as a fourth option, especially considering Cain's injury problems. If Gordon and Butler are 15 hr guys, Moose (if he puts together a full season) and Hosmer are 20 hr guys, we still need a big bat in the middle. Perez might hit for more power eventually, but I wouldn't count on it for next year. When the back end of your lineup and the lead off hitter runs through some combo of Escobar/Getz/Bonifacio/Lough/Dyson...ugh...that's four players in a row that instill no fear in the opposing pitcher.
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