NFL Draft Since Long is now predicted to go at #2...

**pr_capone** · 05:37 AM

... could we possibly see the Chiefs trading up to #3 and picking up Dorsey ahead of Oakland?

That would be a safe trade for Atlanta as OAK won't be picking up another QB... at least not in the first.

If so... what will it cost us? a 1st (5th) and 3rd?

What about the possibility of ATL taking Ryan and OAK taking McFadden?

If this has been discussed... my apologies. I am not about to read through 15 pages of threads for this answer.

Mecca · 04-26-2008, 02:20 AM

Atlanta wants Dorsey so....what do you think?

**pr_capone** · 04-26-2008, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Atlanta wants Dorsey so....what do you think?

I think they will take Ryan ahead of Dorsey. They desperately need a QB and Ryan is the top QB available.

Who would they get next year.... Booty? *blech*

Mecca · 04-26-2008, 02:24 AM

Their head coach was Jacksonvilles DC, once again, what do you think?

They have 3 2nd rounders which means they could likely move back into the late first for Brohm.

**pr_capone** · 04-26-2008, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Their head coach was Jacksonvilles DC, once again, what do you think?

They have 3 2nd rounders which means they could likely move back into the late first for Brohm.

Based on what I just heard on the NFL Network.... Atlanta has a bigger hard-on for Ryan than they do Dorsey. The talking heads at NFLNW had Dorsey falling to OAK which is what prompted my initial question.

The fact that their HC was a DC means nothing.

When Vermiel (an Offensive minded coach) came to KC his first pick was a DT (Downing).

The following year his first 2 picks were defensive players... DT (Sims) & DE (Freeman).

**pr_capone** · 04-26-2008, 02:37 AM

Hell... Hermies first draft ( a D HC if there ever was one)

D. Bowe

I would think that a team would pick to fill the biggest need.... not whatever player is available that best suits the HC's experience.

Mecca · 04-26-2008, 02:45 AM

Um drafting for need is how you have bad drafts, especially that high.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-26-2008, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

Hell... Hermies first draft ( a D HC if there ever was one)

D. Bowe

I would think that a team would pick to fill the biggest need.... not whatever player is available that best suits the HC's experience.

Then who choose Hali in the first round of 2006?

Or Bernard Pollard in the second round of 2006?

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-26-2008, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

Based on what I just heard on the NFL Network

Do you trust Oprah Winfrey for your news as well?

**pr_capone** · 04-26-2008, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Um drafting for need is how you have bad drafts, especially that high.

Because Ryan would ruin their Franchise?

Its not like Ryan is a reach at #3.... much less at #5.

Shockley, D.J. 3 QB 6-0 214 24 2 Georgia
Redman, Chris 8 QB 6-3 223 29 5 Louisville
Harrington, Joey 13 QB 6-4 220 28 7 Oregon

Say what you will but their QB corps are horribly weak unlike at DT where they have 4 players all under 30, 2 of which were just signed this off season. Not to mention that they have some pretty damn good DE's, one being a 3 time pro-bowler and the other a first round pick last year.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-26-2008, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Um drafting for need is how you have bad drafts, especially that high.

Which, of course, is how the Chiefs will be judged Saturday night (and Monday morning) by all the idiots across the internet and 99% of all the newspapers in this country (minus Gosselin).

Need. Need. Need. And more need.

Cade McNown was once a "great" pick because Chicago needed a QB. So was Cedric Benson, because their running game was awful.

But, they got immediate "A's" by the all-knowing media.

Morons.

**pr_capone** · 04-26-2008, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Then who choose Hali in the first round of 2006?

Or Bernard Pollard in the second round of 2006?

Yeah.... I forgot he was around in 06.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Do you trust Oprah Winfrey for your news as well?

I am just making conversation based on what was being reported at the time.

Jesus Tits.... it is not like it is out of the realm of fucking possibility.

Mecca · 04-26-2008, 02:58 AM

That shit is really stupid, like the people that think the Chiefs have to take an OT.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-26-2008, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

Because Ryan would ruin their Franchise?

Its not like Ryan is a reach at #3.... much less at #5.

Shockley, D.J. 3 QB 6-0 214 24 2 Georgia
Redman, Chris 8 QB 6-3 223 29 5 Louisville
Harrington, Joey 13 QB 6-4 220 28 7 Oregon

Say what you will but their QB corps are horribly weak unlike at DT where they have 4 players all under 30, 2 of which were just signed this off season. Not to mention that they have some pretty damn good DE's, one being a 3 time pro-bowler and the other a first round pick last year.

Dude, no one's arguing the fact that Atlanta's in need of a quarterback.

But that doesn't automatically make Ryan the best value at #3.

I think he's somewhere between 8-12, at the highest.

**007** · 04-26-2008, 02:59 AM

Why try to figure it out? Just wait and see what happens. Much simpler approach.

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