**** OFFICIAL 2013-2014 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread, Part 2 ****

[ArrowheadHawk]

#10 (23-8,14-4)

Players

Spoiler!

Returning Players
1 Naadir Tharpe Guard 5-11 170 Jr.
3 Andrew White III Guard 6-6 210 So.
4 Justin Wesley Forward 6-9 220 RS Sr.
10 Evan Manning Guard 6-3 170 So.
11 Tyler Self Guard 6-2 165 So.
20 Niko Roberts Guard 5-11 175 Sr.
21 Christian Garrett Guard 6-3 185 Jr.
31 Jamari Traylor Forward 6-8 220 RS So.
33 Landen Lucas Forward 6-10 240 RS Fr.
34 Perry Ellis Forward 6-8 225 So.

Incoming Class
SF ***** Wayne Selden
C ***** Joel Embiid
PG **** Conner Frankamp
SF **** Brannen Greene
PG **** Frank Mason
SF ***** Andrew Wiggins

Transfers
Hunter Mickelson
Tarik Black

Non Conference

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11/8/2013 Louisiana Monroe Lawrence, Kan. W(80-63) (1-0)
11/12/2013 Duke Chicago, Ill. W(94-83) (2-0)
11/19/2013 Iona Lawrence, Kan. W(86-66) (3-0)
11/22/2013 Towson W(88-58) (4-0)
11/28/2013 Wake Forest Paradise Island, Bahamas W(87-78) (5-0)
11/29/2013 Villanova Paradise Island, Bahamas L(59-63) (5-1)
11/30/2013 UTEP Paradise Island, Bahamas W(67-63) (6-1)
12/7/2013 Colorado Boulder, Colo. L(72-75) (6-2)
12/10/2013 Florida Gainesville, Fla. L(61-67) (6-3)
12/14/2013 New Mexico Kansas City, Mo. W(80-63)(7-3)
12/21/2013 Georgetown Lawrence, Kan. W(86-64)(8-3)
12/30/2013 Toledo Lawrence, Kan. W(93-83)(9-3)
1/5/2014 San Diego State Lawrence, Kan. L(57-61)(9-4)

Conference

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1/8/2014 Oklahoma Norman, Okla. W(90-83)(10-4,1-0)
1/11/2014 Kansas State Lawrence, Kan. W(86-60)(11-4,2-0)
1/13/2014 Iowa State Ames, Iowa W(77-70)(12-4,3-0)
1/18/2014 Oklahoma State Lawrence, Kan. W(80-78)(13-4,4-0)
1/20/2014 Baylor Lawrence, Kan. W(78-68)(14-4,5-0)
1/25/2014 TCU Fort Worth, Texas W(91-69)(15-4,6-0)
1/29/2014 Iowa State Lawrence, Kan. W(92-81)(16-4,7-0)
2/1/2014 Texas Austin, Texas L(69-81)(16-5,7-1)
2/4/2014 Baylor Waco, Texas W(69-52)(17-5,8-1)
2/8/2014 West Virginia Lawrence, Kan. W(83-69)(18-5,9-1)
2/10/2014 Kansas State Manhattan, Kan. L(82-85)(18-6,9-2)
2/15/2014 TCU Lawrence, Kan. W(95-65)(19-6,10-2)
2/18/2014 Texas Tech Lubbock, Texas W(64-63)(20-6,11-2)
2/22/2014 Texas Lawrence, Kan. W(85-54)(21-6,12-2)
2/24/2014 Oklahoma Lawrence, Kan. W(83-75)(22-6,13-2)
3/1/2014 Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. L(65-72)(22-7,13-3)
3/5/2014 Texas Tech Lawrence, Kan. W(82-57)(23-7,14-3)
3/8/2014 West Virginia Morgantown, W. Va. L(86-92)(23-8,14-4)

Big 12 Championship
3/13/2014 Texas Tech/Oklahoma State Kansas City, Mo. 2PM ESPN2

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

I am perfect for the season, and when I didn't start the thread, we lost to Texas.

Do it.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Silock

You know there's been video released, right? Texas Tech released it, and there's even more out there. None of the eyewitnesses in the area reported hearing a slur, either.

Yes, I watched/heard the video multiple times. And I'm still not exactly sure what it is I'm hearing or what it's supposed to prove. Completely inconclusive in every way.

Who are the eyewitnesses BTW? Are they as or more credible as this guy with the history of yelling derogatory things at college athletes?

[Silock]

As opposed to the more credible . . . assumption?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

I am perfect for the season, and when I didn't start the thread, we lost to Texas.

Do it baby.

[chiefsfan987]

There is a new Marcus Smart photoshop on the phog.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Silock

As opposed to the more credible . . . assumption?

As far as I can tell, it's still just Smart's word against this guy's right now. Same situation as we were last night. Neither are exactly the most credible of sources for different reasons. If you've got something more substantial than that, something that proves it either way, I'd love to see it. But that video you're referring to certainly doesn't constitute it.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

As far as I can tell, it's still just Smart's word against this guy's right now. Same situation as we were last night. Neither are exactly the most credible of sources for different reasons. If you've got something more substantial than that, something that proves it either way, I'd love to see it. But that video you're referring to certainly doesn't constitute it.

You can clearly hear "You piece of crap" in the video, and that's right when Smart turns around and walks up to him.

I don't know how much more substantial you want.

[Bambi]

bwahahaha

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Silock

You can clearly hear "You piece of crap" in the video, and that's right when Smart turns around and walks up to him.

I don't know how much more substantial you want.

Sorry, but I can't clearly hear anything here. Especially the word "crap." For me, I think I hear "piece of..." but then the audio immediately trails off (although even that may be because I was trying to hear it and expected to hear it). It's extremely inconclusive.

You honestly think this constitutes substantial evidence of anything at all?

[Silock]

I hear it all clearly. Crap is certainly at a lower volume, but still clearly discernible.

Yes, I do think it's substantial evidence, especially since there is no indication either on video or from any eyewitnesses around him (cameramen, spectators, or anyone else) that a racial slur was used. You really think EVERYONE is just lying to protect this guy?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Bambi

bwahahaha

Are you trying to make me have a seizure? WTF is that shit?

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Silock

I hear it all clearly. Crap is certainly at a lower volume, but still clearly discernible.

I don't. I'm even straining to hear it and there's nothing there. The audio even seems to trail off immediately after a quick yell of something. Seems to me you're hearing what you want to.

Yes, I do think it's substantial evidence, especially since there is no indication either on video or from any eyewitnesses around him (cameramen, spectators, or anyone else) that a racial slur was used.

What indication were you looking for? An acknowledgement? Some kind of admonishment? I've heard racial slurs yelled before at games and nobody around those idiots ever did or said anything about it (and that goes for me too, I suppose I'm a coward). Why would that be any kind of a surprise?

You really think EVERYONE is just lying to protect this guy?

For somebody to be lying about anything, somebody would have had to come out to make a statement either way. That hasn't happened.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I don't. I'm even straining to hear it and there's nothing there. The audio even seems to trail off immediately after a quick yell of something. Seems to me you're hearing what you want to.

Or maybe you're not hearing what you don't want to. Or maybe your hearing isn't as good. Or your speakers. But it's there.

What indication were you looking for? An acknowledgement? Some kind of admonishment? I've heard racial slurs yelled before at games and nobody around those idiots ever did or said anything about it (and that goes for me too, I suppose I'm a coward). Why would that be any kind of a surprise?

Were you ever involved in something like this with national attention? Were the people around you ever interviewed regarding whether or not they heard something?

For somebody to be lying about anything, somebody would have had to come out to make a statement either way. That hasn't happened.

Yes, it has.

http://www.texastech.com/genrel/020914aab.html

"Texas Tech interviewed Mr. Orr along with numerous fans, photographers and arena personnel that were seated in the area surrounding him. Mr. Orr vehemently denied the accusation that he used a racial slur and no one in the vicinity of Mr. Orr heard such a slur.

Mr. Orr has admitted to directing an inappropriate phrase toward Marcus Smart. Texas Tech has been able to verify that statement independently through video provided by Texas Tech Sports Broadcasting. At no point on the film can a racial slur be heard."

[Pants]

FWIW, I can also clearly hear "You piece of cra-woooop." The last part of crap is muffled but the "You piece of" is clear as day.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Silock

Or maybe you're not hearing what you don't want to. Or maybe your hearing isn't as good. Or your speakers. But it's there.

I'll admit my laptop's speaker sound does suck, but I do have headphones. There's absolutely nothing there. This isn't the smoking gun you're looking for.

Were you ever involved in something like this with national attention? Were the people around you ever interviewed regarding whether or not they heard something?

No, but the point was that most people don't like getting involved in situations where they see unacceptable behaviour and will do anything to avoid conflict. I believe psychologists call it the bystander effect.

Yes, it has.

No, that hasn't happened. Nobody has come out publicly and made any such statement either way. The article you've cited doesn't give specifics of any kind in that regard and also comes from a source with a vested interest in not having the world know that some of their fans use racial slurs (as several other college players have come out in the last day to say). It's just about as credible as the inconclusive video they put out there that proves absolutely nothing about anything. The way it also seems to take the guy's side is also particularly embarrassing to me (such are the benefits of being a booster).