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Old 04-17-2014, 09:33 PM  
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**2014 Official NBA Playoffs Thread**
Round 1:

EAST:

#8 Hawks @ #1 Pacers
#7 Bobcats @ #2 Heat
#6 Nets @ #3 Raptors
#5 Wizards @ #4 Bulls

WEST:
#8 Mavericks @ #1 Spurs
#7 Grizzlies @ #2 Thunder
#6 Warriors @ #3 Clippers
#5 Blazers @ #4 Rockets
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Old 06-16-2014, 06:02 AM   #4996
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You talking about 1 game or totally dominated, as the Heat were in the series?

The Celtics blew the Lakers out 148- 114 in Game 1 of the '85 Finals. However, the Lakers came back to win the series 4-2.

The Rockets swept the Magic in the '95 Finals. Only game 1 was close.
So many blowouts in a series. I know there have been plenty of 1 game routes.
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Old 06-16-2014, 06:20 AM   #4997
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Lebron should go back to Cleveland. Cleveland with lebron is going to be a lot better than Miami with lebron going forward.
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Old 06-16-2014, 06:59 AM   #4998
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You can either use statistics as an unbiased, objective tool to evaluate players or you can bullshit on obliviously with no evidence of anything you're talking about. Seems you've made your choice a long time ago.


So, so dumb. And considering your first post in this 2 month old thread was yesterday (to troll LeBron) and all the rest of the posts that have followed (trolling LeBron) not the least bit surprising.
Hahaha. Yeah, statistics are unbiased. Joe Montana should be bumped way down in history because shame on him for not throwing for enough yards. We should worship guys like Melo who is one of the more statistically impressive players of our generation.

But by all means, build your team like a fantasy team. It's worked great for Dan Snyder. Or maybe the intangibles matter. Sorry, but I'll build my team around gamers who can deliver in the 4th quarter. The players who for some reason go completely in their element. Players who are leaders.
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Old 06-16-2014, 07:17 AM   #4999
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So now we're back to it being the only real factor and making definitive statements without context. OK, then.
In regard to LJ = MJ that discussion is over.

Let's move on to Wade, I hear alot of people say he was a former shell of himself and there is no doubt he isn't the Wade that won his first championship but in the Pacers series he averaged 20 pts and shot 55%. All of sudden he now he is a shell of himself? Same thing with Bosh. No I just think they had a bad series and the Spurs defense had alot to do with that. They played great D the entire series and got up into their grill and contested shots all series long.

As far as Lebron goes after sleeping on this I think he stays with Miami. I don't see any team out there that he could win a championship with and still get paid except maybe the Bulls. The East is so bad the Heat could be back in the Finals next year.
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Old 06-16-2014, 07:19 AM   #5000
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I don't understand why being critical of Lebron has to make you a troll. I admit I said a couple things to get the Lebron fans going, but for the most part there's nothing wrong with saying he's the most physically gifted player the NBA has ever seen and will go down as one of the all-time greats, but he's not on MJ's level and probably never will be. He was the only guy that truly came to play for The Heat, but he took part in the shitty defense, most of his points came in one quarter most of the games, he didn't remain aggressive throughout either game, he didn't play well in the 4th q's, and he got outplayed by Leonard. There's some room for criticism whether you like it or not.

It's funny how quickly the Heat went from one of the all-time greatest teams to Lebron has no help. The rest of his team did play like shit for the most part, but since he handpicked this team and made a spectacle out of it I could care less for the excuses. He told the world they were going to win 7+. He put those expectations on himself and now it's a shocker that some people want to critique his very good, but not quite dominant performance?
One of the best posts in this thread. Totally agree.
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Old 06-16-2014, 08:30 AM   #5001
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We don't need to make any more statements regarding Jordan and Lebron.

Because there is no argument.
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Old 06-16-2014, 10:46 AM   #5002
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Also in case you were wondering seeing, Wade boggs and Tony Gwynn had career Ops that was typically around. 850. These guys were some of the best hitters I have ever seen. Measuring singles hitters by Ops is just plain crazy. Especially boggs who was one of the most frustrating hitters to face.

Your Stat line doesn't show that. Just as a Stat line can only show you so much about mj or LeBron. The story behind the stats matters a lot more. And the clutch part is most important to me. Some can be measured as I've shown several examples of. And yes, some is an eyeball test.
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Old 06-16-2014, 11:23 AM   #5003
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We have enough trolls in this thread without bringing up that guy's hatred and delusions again.


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Old 06-16-2014, 11:25 AM   #5004
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The trolling knows no bounds. You didn't even watch the game.
You and trolling... LOL....
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Old 06-16-2014, 11:27 AM   #5005
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One of the best posts in this thread. Totally agree.
Nope just a troll post
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Old 06-16-2014, 11:29 AM   #5006
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In regard to LJ = MJ that discussion is over.

Let's move on to Wade, I hear alot of people say he was a former shell of himself and there is no doubt he isn't the Wade that won his first championship but in the Pacers series he averaged 20 pts and shot 55%. All of sudden he now he is a shell of himself? Same thing with Bosh. No I just think they had a bad series and the Spurs defense had alot to do with that. They played great D the entire series and got up into their grill and contested shots all series long.

As far as Lebron goes after sleeping on this I think he stays with Miami. I don't see any team out there that he could win a championship with and still get paid except maybe the Bulls. The East is so bad the Heat could be back in the Finals next year.
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Michael Jordan lost by 15+ points once in his NBA Finals career.


LeBron James lost by 15+ in all 4 losses in the 2014 NBA Finals.
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Michael Jordan lost by 15+ points once in his NBA Finals career.


LeBron James lost by 15+ in all 4 losses in the 2014 NBA Finals.
Perhaps LaNBA is wearing panties that still have tag in them. That makes a difference ..
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Old 06-16-2014, 12:02 PM   #5009
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We probably should start an NBA offseason thread, but oh well. Looking at the draft for the Heat there is about 4 players I wouldn't mind seeing them get that could be available in the later part of the draft.

Jordan Clarkson, Mizzou - Good combo guard. Decent size at 6'4. Play point yet give Wade some time off at 2.

Shabazz Napier, UConn - Pure point guard. Big game player, won't be fazed with all the attention that comes with being on the Heat.

Elfrid Payton, Louisiana - Sleeper pick in the draft. Saw him play in the Sun Belt a couple of times and was a pure stud. Level of competition would be a concern, but he was a baller.

Mitch McGray - Michigan. He likes the hooche or probably would be higher. Good fit as he can be a younger version of Birdman. Do all the dirty work and has pretty good size.
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LeBron should head to Golden State and pick his coach once he gets there.
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