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Old 01-27-2015, 04:55 PM  
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Ghostbusters reboot cast announced

Your new Ghostbusters are....

Kristen Wiig
Melissa McCarthy
Kate McKinnon
Leslie Jones

http://m.hollywoodreporter.com/entry/view/id/903196

Just knew McCarthy and Wiig would be in this...****ing kill me now.

How long until Kevin Hart is announced as Slimer?
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Old 07-11-2016, 04:17 PM   #391
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Most people are just mildly annoyed at the drama. It's just a movie.

We survive tons of shitty movies, but this one the creators and talent are determined to shame people for not celebrating.

It flared back up this week because it's getting screened for critics and there are clearly some movie critics, many from questionable sources, who are being cheerleaders rather than objective reviewers.

In case you missed it, the title of the 'review' on uproxx I posted above is



Read it and tell me how it measures in the tradition of Ebert or Kael.
To be fair, the creators and talent have been the subject of a lot of hate simply based on casting four women. Before the first, admittedly bad trailer came out. I agree however, that the review you posted is clickbait garbage.

It's not just people opposed to casting women, though. I'm even accustomed to knee jerk reactions. That's what the internet is for. It's the level to which it has risen with this movie. Reviewers releasing reviews just to say they refuse to see it? What?! How ****ing pathetic is that?
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Old 07-11-2016, 04:19 PM   #392
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When I think of comedy stars.....neither of those two are in the top 25.
If you are referencing top CURRENT comedy stars, then you simply aren't paying attention. Again, particularly in McCarthy's case.
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Depends on what you mean by 'comedy star.' If you mean in the entire pantheon of famous funny people, no. If you mean comedic actors in high profile movies, closer question.
Which I did, but I figured that was clear since that is the context in which we are discussing them. Apologies if not.
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Old 07-11-2016, 04:25 PM   #394
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To be fair, the creators and talent have been the subject of a lot of hate simply based on casting four women. Before the first, admittedly bad trailer came out. I agree however, that the review you posted is clickbait garbage.

It's not just people opposed to casting women, though. I'm even accustomed to knee jerk reactions. That's what the internet is for. It's the level to which it has risen with this movie. Reviewers releasing reviews just to say they refuse to see it? What?! How ****ing pathetic is that?
And the director and stars go on talk shows and tell all their critics to get out of their mom's basement.

And they rewrote the script to insert jokes making fun of internet critics 'women shouldn't bust ghosts? what a loser!!'

They've been aggressively marketing it as 'it's like that movie everyone loves, but with girl power!!'

And I would dispute the characterization of 'a lot of hate, just for casting women.' There's been more eyerolling than hate. The overwhelming majority of it ramped up after the trailer. And it only continues to build because the cast and crew are actively antagonizing nayayers.
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Old 07-11-2016, 04:41 PM   #395
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And the director and stars go on talk shows and tell all their critics to get out of their mom's basement.

And they rewrote the script to insert jokes making fun of internet critics 'women shouldn't bust ghosts? what a loser!!'

They've been aggressively marketing it as 'it's like that movie everyone loves, but with girl power!!'

And I would dispute the characterization of 'a lot of hate, just for casting women.' There's been more eyerolling than hate. The overwhelming majority of it ramped up after the trailer. And it only continues to build because the cast and crew are actively antagonizing nayayers.
Eh, I guess I've just seen way more bitching from fanboys than anything. I'll take your word for it on the marketing ploys. Most of what I've seen is the typical lame cashing in on the original stuff that you'd expect. Like I said, though, I'm sure you're right.
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Old 07-11-2016, 04:46 PM   #396
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Eh, I guess I've just seen way more bitching from fanboys than anything. I'll take your word for it on the marketing ploys. Most of what I've seen is the typical lame cashing in on the original stuff that you'd expect. Like I said, though, I'm sure you're right.
If you want to bitch about sexism, your initial approach should probably not be sexist. In this case, Feig deliberately set out to cast 4 women as the Ghostbusters which, as you know, was originally an all-male group. In other words, the one who took a sexist approach is bitching about alleged sexist responses to said sexist approach. So Feig, and the rest of the SJW ****wits bitching about all the mean people who aren't happy with the decision, can all go sit on running chainsaws.
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Not to mention these hypocritical douches placed Hemsworth into the role of "sexy eyecandy secretary with no brains" only the male version. They have no interest of bucking tropes or equality, but rather to antagonize and divide.
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Not to mention these hypocritical douches placed Hemsworth into the role of "sexy eyecandy secretary with no brains" only the male version. They have no interest of bucking tropes or equality, but rather to antagonize and divide.
Don't forget that the black actress plays a stereotypical black woman in the movie.
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If you are referencing top CURRENT comedy stars, then you simply aren't paying attention. Again, particularly in McCarthy's case.
Seriously? I saw you mention The Boss earlier, and apparently it is such a great movie it's $30 million less than Ride Along 2.
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Seriously? I saw you mention The Boss earlier, and apparently it is such a great movie it's $30 million less than Ride Along 2.


Melissa McCarthy is a top 5 comedy box office draw. End of story. I can't even believe I'm still having to defend this. On top of that she's also pretty ****ing talented.
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If you want to bitch about sexism, your initial approach should probably not be sexist. In this case, Feig deliberately set out to cast 4 women as the Ghostbusters which, as you know, was originally an all-male group. In other words, the one who took a sexist approach is bitching about alleged sexist responses to said sexist approach. So Feig, and the rest of the SJW ****wits bitching about all the mean people who aren't happy with the decision, can all go sit on running chainsaws.
Well... I mean, yeah it's technically sexist to deliberately cast four women, but since the entertainment industry is about as make dominated as it gets, I just can't muster any ****s.

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Don't forget that the black actress plays a stereotypical black woman in the movie.
These are both good points and turned me of from the movie. Especially the Hemsworth thing since that isn't even reminiscent of the original. Janine wasn't remotely sexualized beyond her infatuation with Egon.
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Well... I mean, yeah it's technically sexist to deliberately cast four women, but since the entertainment industry is about as make dominated as it gets, I just can't muster any ****s.

These are both good points and turned me of from the movie. Especially the Hemsworth thing since that isn't even reminiscent of the original. Janine wasn't remotely sexualized beyond her infatuation with Egon.
Jesus Christ, enjoy the movie and
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Jesus Christ, enjoy the movie and
What? The post you quoted wasn't even supportive of the movie. In fact it was critical. Ah, who cares? I'm just SJW, right? Sorry to interrupt the echo chamber of shitty takes in here.

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What? The post you quoted wasn't even supportive of the movie. In fact it was critical. Ah, who cares? I'm just SJW, right? Sorry to interrupt the echo chamber of shitty takes in here.
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You have problem with my opinion, criticism the parts you have a problem with using countervailing facts or opinion.

'echo chamber of shitty takes' is weak ass shit bearing no relation to reality.
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- unbound from reality.

You have problem with my opinion, criticism the parts you have a problem with using countervailing facts or opinion.

'echo chamber of shitty takes' is weak ass shit bearing no relation to reality.
OK. I'll 'criticism' away. I don't have a problem with your opinion. In fact I agreed with you. I agreed that the review you posted was bullshit. I also conceded that you were probably right about the overly defensive marketing campaign. You, however, met my annoyance with this movies clearly unfair reception with defensive bullshit. Then, when I acknowledged what I thought was totally fair criticism of the film's characters, you nonsensically told me to enjoy the movie and .

The echo chamber I referenced is referring to an overly eager embrace of any comment bashing the movie or attacking any viewpoint that lends credence to the idea that the fanboy reverence for the original film is silly and pathetic, which it is.

Way to call me or on making non-specific arguments by generally attacking my grip on reality, though. Really strong.
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