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Old 02-25-2014, 10:06 AM   #1
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There wouldn't be a GWAR without KISS.
Would that be so bad?
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Old 02-25-2014, 10:08 AM   #2
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Would that be so bad?


There wouldn't be a Slipknot without KISS either, so you might be on to something.
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Old 02-25-2014, 03:44 PM   #3
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There wouldn't be a Slipknot without KISS either, so you might be on to something.
I hate it when people say this kind of shit. Just because someone was the first to do something it doesn't mean nobody else never would have had the original never existed.

My brother used to say "There wouldn't have ever been bands like Metallica and Megadeth had it not been for Black Sabbath." Bullshit.
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Old 02-25-2014, 03:51 PM   #4
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I hate it when people say this kind of shit. Just because someone was the first to do something it doesn't mean nobody else never would have had the original never existed.

My brother used to say "There wouldn't have ever been bands like Metallica and Megadeth had it not been for Black Sabbath." Bullshit.
You're a moron. Sorry.
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Old 02-25-2014, 06:43 PM   #5
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You're a moron. Sorry.
Using that lame cliche makes you look like one. Sorry.

Seriously how the hell do you know what would have happened had there never been a Kiss? It doesn't take a genius to think up a gimmick like painting your faces to gain distinction.
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Old 02-25-2014, 07:12 PM   #6
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KISS certainly influenced a lot of Glam Metal bands, Pantera, Weezer, Iced Earth, and others.

The thrash metal sound of the early and mid 80s was a blend of punk and the new wave of British heavy metal. Basically, the bands liked the attitude of punk but actually wanted to play their instruments well.
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Old 02-25-2014, 08:04 PM   #7
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KISS certainly influenced a lot of Glam Metal bands, Pantera, Weezer, Iced Earth, and others.

The thrash metal sound of the early and mid 80s was a blend of punk and the new wave of British heavy metal. Basically, the bands liked the attitude of punk but actually wanted to play their instruments well.
You are talking about Pantera before Anselmo joined when they were glam. Nobody remembers Metal Magic, Projects In the Jungle or Power Metal. Pantera truly became the groove metal band during Cowboys that everyone knows about. Pantera evolved and was later influenced more by Anthrax and Metallica among others.
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Old 02-25-2014, 08:29 PM   #8
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KISS certainly influenced a lot of Glam Metal bands, Pantera, Weezer, Iced Earth, and others.

The thrash metal sound of the early and mid 80s was a blend of punk and the new wave of British heavy metal. Basically, the bands liked the attitude of punk but actually wanted to play their instruments well.
Dimebag was a true KISS lover though.
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Old 02-25-2014, 07:13 PM   #9
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Using that lame cliche makes you look like one. Sorry.

Seriously how the hell do you know what would have happened had there never been a Kiss? It doesn't take a genius to think up a gimmick like painting your faces to gain distinction.
They just stole it from alice cooper.
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Old 02-25-2014, 10:18 PM   #10
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They just stole it from alice cooper.
Actually, they stole it from Arthur Brown.

That is probably where Alice Cooper got it from as well.
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Old 02-26-2014, 06:50 AM   #11
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They just stole it from alice cooper.
Who got it from Arthur Brown, as Gloucester said.
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Old 02-26-2014, 06:52 AM   #12
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Using that lame cliche makes you look like one. Sorry.

Seriously how the hell do you know what would have happened had there never been a Kiss? It doesn't take a genius to think up a gimmick like painting your faces to gain distinction.
It's not a lame cliche when the BANDS THEMSELVES say it.

Lars Ulrich says there wouldn't be a Metallica without Diamond Head. And Brian Tatler says there wouldn't be a Diamond Head without Black Sabbath.

So are you going to say that your favorite musicians are lame too?

It's called historical context. Of course, somebody else COULD have come up with it. But somebody else didn't, KISS DID.

And if you talk to musicians, they'll tell you.

Stop acting like you're better than everybody else, it makes you look dumb.
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