Maryville teen allegedly raped by football player

[Tombstone RJ]

that sucks but can you have statutory if everyone involved were minors? It certainly appears that this girl and her mom are being targeted by the community as a whole and that these young men are being enabled to act irresponsibly and with no consequences.

Blame the parents of the perps. Period. End of story. Prosecute the parents for this crap and it will stop happening

I'm so very very tired of arguing this point with other people. But how else will justice be served?

Prosecute the parents who allowed these minors to drink too.

End of story and if you don't agree, kindly piss off.

[oh_snap]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

that sucks but can you have statutory if everyone involved were minors? It certainly appears that this girl and her mom are being targeted by the community as a whole and that these young men are being enabled to act irresponsibly and with no consequences.

Blame the parents of the perps. Period. End of story. Prosecute the parents for this crap and it will stop happening

I'm so very very tired of arguing this point with other people. But how else will justice be served?

Prosecute the parents who allowed these minors to drink too.

End of story and if you don't agree, kindly piss off.

You can prosecute the parents with a fine of some sort for their kids drinking underage. But I honestly think our laws are too leniant on minors. You make a dumb decision as a "minor", you should face the same consequences as if you were an adult.

Is murder any lesser of a crime because the person who murdered was under the age of 18? If you do the crime, you face the same punishment regardless of your age. That is the way it should be anyways.

[Canofbier]

Originally Posted by oh_snap

Not saying rape is okay. It clearly is not. But what the hell is a 14 year old doing at a party, and why the hell did she get black out drunk? We can talk peer pressure, but no one made her get drunk (unless we're talking roofie drunk).

Back in college, I can remember false calls of rape happening a lot. Girls get drunk, sleep with someone they wouldn't normally sleep with, then cry rape the day after. Happened to a mate of mine. Nearly ruined his life as well. Then the girls story unraveled and she admitted finally that it was consensual.

Anyways, clearly a 14 year old shouldn't be out partying and drinking and getting drunk. You're just asking for trouble. Strong parenting.

Originally Posted by oh_snap

You can prosecute the parents with a fine of some sort for their kids drinking underage. But I honestly think our laws are too leniant on minors. You make a dumb decision as a "minor", you should face the same consequences as if you were an adult.

Is murder any lesser of a crime because the person who murdered was under the age of 18? If you do the crime, you face the same punishment regardless of your age. That is the way it should be anyways.

I'm sure that you led a responsible, thoughtful and squeaky-clean life when you were a young teenager. Not. She was at a party because she's a teenage girl who wants to make friends and appear cool to her peers. She got blackout drunk because she has no idea how to drink responsibly yet.

It's scientific fact that people of that age haven't fully developed emotionally, mentally or physically, so I don't see the logic in expecting them to act as if they have.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by oh_snap

You can prosecute the parents with a fine of some sort for their kids drinking underage. But I honestly think our laws are too leniant on minors. You make a dumb decision as a "minor", you should face the same consequences as if you were an adult.

Is murder any lesser of a crime because the person who murdered was under the age of 18? If you do the crime, you face the same punishment regardless of your age. That is the way it should be anyways.

Holding children as accountable as adults is the 2nd dumbest thing you've posted on this thread.

I think I've figured out the problem.

It's you.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

that sucks but can you have statutory if everyone involved were minors? It certainly appears that this girl and her mom are being targeted by the community as a whole and that these young men are being enabled to act irresponsibly and with no consequences.

Blame the parents of the perps. Period. End of story. Prosecute the parents for this crap and it will stop happening

I'm so very very tired of arguing this point with other people. But how else will justice be served?

Prosecute the parents who allowed these minors to drink too.

End of story and if you don't agree, kindly piss off.

I don't know the case law, but the statute for 1st degree statutory just mentions the vic's age, not the perp.

A person commits the crime of statutory rape in the first degree if he has sexual intercourse with another person who is less than fourteen years old.

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5660000032.HTM

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson

I don't know the case law, but the statute for 1st degree statutory just mentions the vic's age, not the perp.



http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5660000032.HTM

The story clearly says the alleged perp is 17 so um, yah.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

The story clearly says the alleged perp is 17 so um, yah.

And your point is????

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Prosecute the perps enabling parents.

I don't think you understand ****all about foreseeability and negligence.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson

And your point is????

that when the rape allegedly happened the perp was 17 years of age or younger right? He was possibly 16? So he was under the age of 18 which is when a minor becomes a major or am I wrong?

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

that when the rape allegedly happened the perp was 17 years of age or younger right? He was possibly 16? So he was under the age of 18 which is when a minor becomes a major or am I wrong?

Star article said he was 17. Not only was he above the age of consent, there's nothing in the MO statute (that I'm aware of) preventing a minor from being prosecuted for statutory. It's probably exceedingly rare, though.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson

Star article said he was 17. Not only was he above the age of consent, there's nothing in the MO statute (that I'm aware of) preventing a minor from being prosecuted for statutory. It's probably exceedingly rare, though.

But he was below the age of being able to legally drink? MO is stupid.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

The girl may be a little void of strong parenting, but not necessarily due to neglect. Unless I'm confusing two stories, my wife told me her dad was a doctor who died not too long ago in a car wreck. This is so sad.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan

The girl may be a little void of strong parenting, but not necessarily due to neglect. Unless I'm confusing two stories, my wife told me her dad was a doctor who died not too long ago in a car wreck. This is so sad.

And her mother was a vet. It's not like she came from an obviously dysfunctional family background.

[Omaha]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

that sucks but can you have statutory if everyone involved were minors? It certainly appears that this girl and her mom are being targeted by the community as a whole and that these young men are being enabled to act irresponsibly and with no consequences.

Blame the parents of the perps. Period. End of story. Prosecute the parents for this crap and it will stop happening

I'm so very very tired of arguing this point with other people. But how else will justice be served?

Prosecute the parents who allowed these minors to drink too.

End of story and if you don't agree, kindly piss off.

Wait. Are you saying that the parents should be prosecuted because their 17 year old son got drunk and raped a chick? Is that what you're trying to say?