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Old 02-02-2012, 10:47 PM   #1
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Yeah cause Palko was much better. The sooner you get it through your head that Haley was not a good HC the better off you will be.
Pioli gave Haley Cassel as his starter.

The four backup QBs he gave Haley were Palko, Croyle, Gutierez, and Stanzi. 3 of them will be sitting on a couch next year. One of them, Stanzi, doesn't seem to be inspiring much confidence even post-Haley.

(Orton came too little too late)

I'll let that sink in. But by all means, blame the coach who was forced to choose piece of shit over most likely shitty.
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:00 AM   #2
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Pioli gave Haley Cassel as his starter.

The four backup QBs he gave Haley were Palko, Croyle, Gutierez, and Stanzi. 3 of them will be sitting on a couch next year. One of them, Stanzi, doesn't seem to be inspiring much confidence even post-Haley.

(Orton came too little too late)

I'll let that sink in. But by all means, blame the coach who was forced to choose piece of shit over most likely shitty.
So you're argument then is Palko is Pioli's guy and not Haley's?
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Old 02-03-2012, 09:11 AM   #3
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So you're argument then is Palko is Pioli's guy and not Haley's?
Must be. That's why he was demoted the minute Haley was fired.
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Old 02-03-2012, 11:16 AM   #4
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So you're argument then is Palko is Pioli's guy and not Haley's?
I would have to say yes. Here's why.

1. Palko never started over Cassel, EVER. He only started when Cassel went down for the season.

2. True Haley kept Palko on the roster, but that was over players even worse than Palko (or at least equivalent in talent), so it is a push.

3. Who legit has Pioli EVER brought in at QB?

4. Orton started once he learned enough of the playbook to be decent and then went down first play forcing Haley to go back to Palko.

5. The only reason why people are so butt hurt over the Palko situation is because they wanted our 5th rounder in Stanzi to start, but from all appearances he was anything but ready and that did not change when Crennel took over.

At the end of the day we finished 7-9 with one of the toughest schedules in the NFL minus our top offensive player, a young talented TE, and one of if not our best defensive players. This is with one of the worst starting QBs in the league and one of if not the worst backup QB situation in the NFL.
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Old 02-03-2012, 11:34 AM   #5
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5. The only reason why people are so butt hurt over the Palko situation is because they wanted our 5th rounder in Stanzi to start, but from all appearances he was anything but ready and that did not change when Crennel took over.
The day RAC took over, before he'd ever run a full practice, he promoted Stanzi to 2nd string and demoted Palko to the end of the bench. It absolutely DID change when Crennel took over.
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:47 PM   #6
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The day RAC took over, before he'd ever run a full practice, he promoted Stanzi to 2nd string and demoted Palko to the end of the bench. It absolutely DID change when Crennel took over.
That was quite obvious when Palko wasn't even on the active roster after Romeo took over. There is absolutely zero reason why Orton shouldn't have started the Bears game but yet Haley still trotted that bum out there. I don't care if Orton had to draw plays in the dirt in each huddle, he would have been an upgrade over Palko.
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That was quite obvious when Palko wasn't even on the active roster after Romeo took over. There is absolutely zero reason why Orton shouldn't have started the Bears game but yet Haley still trotted that bum out there. I don't care if Orton had to draw plays in the dirt in each huddle, he would have been an upgrade over Palko.
Remember the Oakland game we won earlier in the year? Similar situation. No doubt Orton is a better QB than Palko, but the results might not have been any different. Remember how awful Boller was? They trotted a Carson Palmer out who had no time to learn the offense and he was just as bad. That is why QBs are usually given a week or two in order to learn the offense.
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:31 PM   #8
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That was quite obvious when Palko wasn't even on the active roster after Romeo took over. There is absolutely zero reason why Orton shouldn't have started the Bears game but yet Haley still trotted that bum out there. I don't care if Orton had to draw plays in the dirt in each huddle, he would have been an upgrade over Palko.
Orton was a waiver acquisition. It stands to reason, the guy who's been on your team all season, probably knows the playbook better and he did put Orton in the game-Orton got injured on the first play he was in.
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:19 PM   #9
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I would have to say yes. Here's why.

1. Palko never started over Cassel, EVER. He only started when Cassel went down for the season.

2. True Haley kept Palko on the roster, but that was over players even worse than Palko (or at least equivalent in talent), so it is a push.

3. Who legit has Pioli EVER brought in at QB?

4. Orton started once he learned enough of the playbook to be decent and then went down first play forcing Haley to go back to Palko.

5. The only reason why people are so butt hurt over the Palko situation is because they wanted our 5th rounder in Stanzi to start, but from all appearances he was anything but ready and that did not change when Crennel took over.

At the end of the day we finished 7-9 with one of the toughest schedules in the NFL minus our top offensive player, a young talented TE, and one of if not our best defensive players. This is with one of the worst starting QBs in the league and one of if not the worst backup QB situation in the NFL.
I have to correct you, specifically on #4. Orton NEVER started under Haley.
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:26 PM   #10
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I have to correct you, specifically on #4. Orton NEVER started under Haley.
I though he started for one play before getting injured. I might be incorrect though.
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