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Old 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM  
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Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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Old 12-02-2013, 09:07 PM   #2761
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Still don't get it. It might actually be better to admit you are dumping payroll to sign someone else, because the alternative is to think you are pretty stupid.

Actually, that last tweet might be sort of hinting at that, if "flexibility" = $$$. Even so, I don't think that they can buy the wins they lost with the few million they are saving, much less buy even more wins.
Yeah. If they're trying to save money and willing to move a starting pitcher, why not move Porcello?

He's going to get $5 million in arb and even if he breaks through as many think he might in 2014, his upside is not much more than what they've gotten from Fister, if anything at all.
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Old 12-02-2013, 09:10 PM   #2762
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I meant signing both Scherzer and Santana...but based on those tweets I guess they sound happy with their pitching depth and prospects.
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I've looked around long enough at neutral baseball message boards to conclude that the entire baseball world is now chortling at the Tiggers. We're not just being optimistic homers here, nobody likes this trade for them.
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:00 PM   #2764
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I'll reserve judgement until I see what Detroit does the rest of the off-season. They could end up signing Santana or something with all the money they've been dumping. But things are lining up nicely right now for the Royals to make a real run for the division.
Santana is a massive downgrade on Fister and he'll cost a ton more. Them signing him would make this trade even more senseless.
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:30 PM   #2765
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Yeah. If they're trying to save money and willing to move a starting pitcher, why not move Porcello?

He's going to get $5 million in arb and even if he breaks through as many think he might in 2014, his upside is not much more than what they've gotten from Fister, if anything at all.
And even if this was purely a salary dump, you'd think they'd be able to get higher upside/impact prospect ( s ). Weird deal.
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:44 PM   #2766
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:45 PM   #2767
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Damn Oakland just won the World Series with that trade.
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:52 PM   #2769
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In even more shocking news... the O's have traded JIM JOHNSON to the A's for 2B Jemile Weeks. JIM JOHNSON!
WOW.

Shows how little true value Jim Johnson had.

I think this is a clear case of Billy Beane trying to bring in a guy he knows will depart as a free agent and give him a draft pick (though I'm not so sure anyone will really be willing to give up a 1st round pick for Jim Johnson).
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That sucks...Texas needs a closer now and they already traded Kinsler.
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Some credible reporters are saying that the A's and Rangers are close to completing a "significant trade", which would be pretty odd. You don't usually see big trades between division rivals.
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