Royals (New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository - Page 186

duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

ChiefsCountry · 12-03-2013, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

Some credible reporters are saying that the A's and Rangers are close to completing a "significant trade", which would be pretty odd. You don't usually see big trades between division rivals.

Craig Gentry for Michael Choice

BlackHelicopters · 12-03-2013, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Craig Gentry for Michael Choice

Jemille Weeks for...Oh wait.

**alnorth** · 12-03-2013, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Craig Gentry for Michael Choice

According to twitter, the Rangers are also getting "multiple" minor league players.

**alnorth** · 12-03-2013, 12:52 PM

Beltran's highest offer is currently 3/48, no idea from who.

BigCatDaddy · 12-03-2013, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

Beltran's highest offer is currently 3/48, no idea from who.

Not us.

dmahurin · 12-03-2013, 01:23 PM

@KenDavidoff: From George King and @WheresKernan: Carlos Beltran is meeting with #Royals officials today in Kansas City. http://t.co/ZjEHInOcWT

CaliforniaChief · 12-03-2013, 01:37 PM

Check out @rustindodd's Tweet: https://twitter.com/rustindodd/statu...53248067153920

Sure-Oz · 12-03-2013, 01:38 PM

Holy crap....

**gblowfish** · 12-03-2013, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

I thought Dombrowski was smarter than this. That trade is flat-out stunning.

Dombrowski got Fistered by the Nationals!

Marco Polo · 12-03-2013, 01:44 PM

As a Cardinals fan who pseudo roots for the Royals, I would like to see Beltran with the Royals and see if he can provide leadership and a bat to bump them up into the playoffs. And of course, the Cardinals fan in me would love to get that #1 pick from Royals.

**gblowfish** · 12-03-2013, 01:46 PM

I wonder if Chris Getz got some radical "sympathy sex" from his hot wife? Hey, maybe hitting .220 ain't such a bad thing after all???

Don't go Nicki....stay here and do Kia Commercials.....

http://www.everyjoe.com/2013/09/29/g...s-getz-wife/#1

Archie F. Swin · 12-03-2013, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmahurin

@KenDavidoff: From George King and @WheresKernan: Carlos Beltran is meeting with #Royals officials today in Kansas City. http://t.co/ZjEHInOcWT

GMDM.....prick tease

mr. tegu · 12-03-2013, 02:22 PM

Is he looking at real estate in Leawood yet?

**alnorth** · 12-03-2013, 02:35 PM

An agent is not going to let his client meet with a team unless things have gotten very, very serious.

teedubya · 12-03-2013, 02:45 PM

Hearing this on 610 gave me the biggest smile... if we get Beltran, sooooo many casual fans will come out to the K next year. HUUUGE. Deal Butler to Seattle for some pitching?

That would set us up nicely... Beltran gets to go into the HOF as a Royal. Win!

I ****ing love it.

08-15-2013, 08:13 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1740308	(New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository New thread, this time with more burst. Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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Marco Polo Veteran Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 41°59.4′N 87°39.6'W Casino cash: $5788908	As a Cardinals fan who pseudo roots for the Royals, I would like to see Beltran with the Royals and see if he can provide leadership and a bat to bump them up into the playoffs. And of course, the Cardinals fan in me would love to get that #1 pick from Royals.
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alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57166239	An agent is not going to let his client meet with a team unless things have gotten very, very serious. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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12-03-2013, 02:45 PM	#2790
teedubya Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $9480002	Hearing this on 610 gave me the biggest smile... if we get Beltran, sooooo many casual fans will come out to the K next year. HUUUGE. Deal Butler to Seattle for some pitching? That would set us up nicely... Beltran gets to go into the HOF as a Royal. Win! I ****ing love it.
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