Royals (New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository - Page 187

duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

mr. tegu · 12-03-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya

Hearing this on 610 gave me the biggest smile... if we get Beltran, sooooo many casual fans will come out to the K next year. HUUUGE. Deal Butler to Seattle for some pitching?

That would set us up nicely... Beltran gets to go into the HOF as a Royal. Win!

I ****ing love it.

mr. tegu · 12-03-2013, 02:47 PM

I saw somewhere that he was looking for real estate in Leawood. I can't remember where though.

teedubya · 12-03-2013, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

I'd trade Billy Butler for Felix Hernandez.

Who do they have that we'd want, seriously? 610 said that is probably where Butler would be dealt.

**alnorth** · 12-03-2013, 02:55 PM

I saw a picture that got tweeted showing the scoreboard welcoming Beltran to the K, but I can't find it now. Maybe the tweet was deleted.

**alnorth** · 12-03-2013, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Check out @rustindodd's Tweet: https://twitter.com/rustindodd/statu...53248067153920

oh, there it was

Archie F. Swin · 12-03-2013, 02:57 PM

Mariners Have Emerged As Major Players For Robinson Cano http://t.co/E1LY1A8Rys #mlb
— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) December 3, 2013

wha?

CaliforniaChief · 12-03-2013, 02:59 PM

Adding Beltran would be great. One of those good baseball/good PR moves.

At that point, you start to look at the trade market and see what it would take to bring Kendrick here, unless they're really going to go for a Mark Ellis type player at 2B and see if Colon can win the job.

Gordon LF
Kendrick 2B
Hosmer 1B
Beltran RF
Butler DH
Perez C
Cain CF
Moustakas 3B
Escobar SS

Shields, Guthrie, Ventura, Vargas, Duffy

Great Expectations · 12-03-2013, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Adding Beltran would be great. One of those good baseball/good PR moves.

At that point, you start to look at the trade market and see what it would take to bring Kendrick here, unless they're really going to go for a Mark Ellis type player at 2B and see if Colon can win the job.

Gordon LF
Kendrick 2B
Hosmer 1B
Beltran RF
Butler DH
Perez C
Cain CF
Moustakas 3B
Escobar SS

Shields, Guthrie, Ventura, Vargas, Duffy

That looks like a playoff team.

**alnorth** · 12-03-2013, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Adding Beltran would be great. One of those good baseball/good PR moves.

At that point, you start to look at the trade market and see what it would take to bring Kendrick here, unless they're really going to go for a Mark Ellis type player at 2B and see if Colon can win the job.

Gordon LF
Kendrick 2B
Hosmer 1B
Beltran RF
Butler DH
Perez C
Cain CF
Moustakas 3B
Escobar SS

Shields, Guthrie, Ventura, Vargas, Duffy

If we sign Beltran, then we're probably just going to throw Bonifacio, Gio, and Colon into the Thunderdome and see who walks out.

**Dartgod** · 12-03-2013, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations

That looks like a playoff team.

Our Time!

BlackHelicopters · 12-03-2013, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

I saw somewhere that he was looking for real estate in Leawood. I can't remember where though.

Strongside · 12-03-2013, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations

That looks like a championship team provided that our rotation is solid.

FYP

C3HIEF3S · 12-03-2013, 04:09 PM

Buster Olney twitter: @Buster_ESPN: Other teams becoming convinced that Carlos Beltran is going to land with the Royals, on a deal of 3/$48 million.

BlackHelicopters · 12-03-2013, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S

Buster Olney twitter: @Buster_ESPN: Other teams becoming convinced that Carlos Beltran is going to land with the Royals, on a deal of 3/$48 million.

Unreal

BlackHelicopters · 12-03-2013, 04:12 PM

My buddy saw Beltran in Best Buy on Black Friday. Stocking up on Blake Shelton CD's.

08-15-2013, 08:13 AM
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