Royals (New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository - Page 194

duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Nightfyre · 12-03-2013, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SPchief

How did those two do in the playoffs last year?

The dodgers took it to the sixth game of the NLCS and the Yankees didn't make it. Meanwhile, the ****ing Royals haven't made the playoffs since 1985.

Prison Bitch · 12-03-2013, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I say Paxton and Walker - bitches.

HAHAHAHA! Dream on.

Nightfyre · 12-03-2013, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

HAHAHAHA! Dream on.

At least my "dream" isn't that of the Royal's giving away their best offensive player in a salary dump. Bitch.

Prison Bitch · 12-03-2013, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

At least my "dream" isn't that of the Royal's giving away their best offensive player in a salary dump. Bitch.

Looks like it might be mine and Dayton's dream. And please address me Mr. Bitch.

**Anyong Bluth** · 12-03-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB

I think you're overestimating Glass' willingness to add another $16M to the payroll with no off-set.

Which is bullshit, if it means way more fans coming out to watch a winning team and playoff baseball

seaofred · 12-03-2013, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

Which is bullshit, if it means way more fans coming out to watch a winning team and playoff baseball

They were a winning team this year and the had the same number of fans....

Bambi · 12-03-2013, 10:23 PM

Ellsbury is a funny player. Definitely being drastically overpaid here.

Which of course doesn't bode well for the Royals.

**alnorth** · 12-03-2013, 11:11 PM

I think with the Kelly Johnson signing, the Yankees are now firmly out on Beltran, which gives us a big advantage on signing him. We are definitely overpaying him, and for good reason; the fans love him, he could become our HOF'er, etc. So outside of the Yankees, other teams have no reason to match the crazy money we're throwing at him.

Some people dismiss the Yankees self-imposed cap, but its a real thing, especially if they still want Cano. They are going to move heaven and earth to stay under the luxury tax threshold because if they can do that for just one year, they reset the number of consecutive years they break the cap, and they can go nuts next year for a lower penalty. They want to be competitive, but they are more looking at 2015+, not 2014.

CaliforniaChief · 12-03-2013, 11:15 PM

Yeah I don't think Beltran's going to NY.

The only other team that I worry about is Texas.

**Anyong Bluth** · 12-04-2013, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Yeah I don't think Beltran's going to NY.

The only other team that I worry about is Texas.

What about all this talk about Seattle getting a bit more interested as of late?

SPchief · 12-04-2013, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

What about all this talk about Seattle getting a bit more interested as of late?

Seattle always puts their name in on everyone.

KCUnited · 12-04-2013, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog

KC Royals Spring Training announced! Tickets to go on sale December 9th.

Any of you coming down for it this year? I'd like to make it a point to meet up with anyone who will be in attendance. I briefly met KC United last year, but my parents were in town so it limited my availability. They aren't making it this year though.

It's a great time. I met almost all the players last year.

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/spr...ve.jsp?c_id=kc

I'll be down again this year, I think we're staying 3/17-3/24. I'm looking at places in Glendale to stay rather than Surprise so we can take in some non-Royals games as well.

**alnorth** · 12-04-2013, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Bob Dutton ‏@TNT_Mariners 26m
Many in industry now see #Royals as clear leaders to sign Beltran and believe #Mariners have a real shot to steal Cano from #Yankees.

Bob Dutton ‏@TNT_Mariners 23m
Hearing #Royals, at this point, are only contender willing to go to three years on Beltran.

Morning rumors

eazyb81 · 12-04-2013, 07:41 AM

Can anyone actually defend giving Beltran a three year contract for $16 million AAV?

Seriously, I'd love to hear it.

dlphg9 · 12-04-2013, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Can anyone actually defend giving Beltran a three year contract for $16 million AAV?

Seriously, I'd love to hear it.

It's Glasshole's money. Who cares what he spends it on.

08-15-2013, 08:13 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1740308	(New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository New thread, this time with more burst. Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57166239	I think with the Kelly Johnson signing, the Yankees are now firmly out on Beltran, which gives us a big advantage on signing him. We are definitely overpaying him, and for good reason; the fans love him, he could become our HOF'er, etc. So outside of the Yankees, other teams have no reason to match the crazy money we're throwing at him. Some people dismiss the Yankees self-imposed cap, but its a real thing, especially if they still want Cano. They are going to move heaven and earth to stay under the luxury tax threshold because if they can do that for just one year, they reset the number of consecutive years they break the cap, and they can go nuts next year for a lower penalty. They want to be competitive, but they are more looking at 2015+, not 2014. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry Last edited by alnorth; 12-03-2013 at 11:27 PM..
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