Movies and TV The Official "Lost" the series discussion - Page 179

Deberg_1990 · 10-06-2004, 04:29 PM

I figured I would start a thread for this and see what happens....there seemed to be quite a few viewers on the board for this show the past few weeks.....I like the direction the show is taking so far......episode 3 tonight at 7 central on ABC....

**007** · 02-29-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dude, no offense but I really don't understand your interest in this show and why you keep asking questions. You've stated that you have no desire to watch Seasons Two or Three again (and EVERY episode provides clues about the Island and it's nature, however minute), you don't seem to follow the premise (see below) and you get offended when you ask for answers.

I'll try to be "less" sarcastic when you ask questions in the future.

Or will I?

They were simple question that required a simple answer. Not "Dude do you even watch this show?" without even offering an answer. If you are just being sarcastic fine, but at least answer the question something you seem to NOT want to do. I am not going to go back and watch 2 seasons of showings just to get one minute answer. Which, thanks to Cro, I actually do remember now.

All I am saying is that I didn't enjoy seasons 2 and 3. It is not a crime. i want to know how the whole thing plays out is why I keep watching. Just because you love every aspect of the show does not mean I have to.

I follow this show more than you give me credit for.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-29-2008, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

They were simple question that required a simple answer. Not "Dude do you even watch this show?" without even offering an answer. If you are just being sarcastic fine, but at least answer the question something you seem to NOT want to do. I am not going to go back and watch 2 seasons of showings just to get one minute answer. Which, thanks to Cro, I actually do remember now.

All I am saying is that I didn't enjoy seasons 2 and 3. It is not a crime. i want to know how the whole thing plays out is why I keep watching. Just because you love every aspect of the show does not mean I have to.

I follow this show more than you give me credit for.

I'll give you the answer right now:

The island is an Axis Mundi.

It's a portal that exists between Earth and "Heaven". Time has no meaning there. People can't get pregnant and create "new life" there. It's a gateway. And there's two opposing forces trying to control it: Ben's organization and Widmore's organization.

So there you go.

**007** · 02-29-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'll give you the answer right now:

The island is an Axis Mundi.

It's a portal that exists between Earth and "Heaven". Time has no meaning there. People can't get pregnant and create "new life" there. It's a gateway. And there's two opposing forces trying to control it: Ben's organization and Widmore's organization.

So there you go.

Well, that goes way beyond what my 2 questions entailed but I will take it for what it is worth.

I seem to remember the creators stating it was not a midpoint like purgatory or something. Maybe it is not the same thing but seems like a tricky way to say it.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-29-2008, 06:52 PM

The axis mundi (also cosmic axis, world axis, world pillar and center of the world) is a symbol representing the mythical point of connection between sky and earth. It is claimed to offer a means of travel and correspondence between the two realms. It is also alleged to be the place where the four compass directions unite, allowing treasure from heaven to be disseminated throughout the world. This is said to place it at the center of the world: at its omphalos (navel), the world's point of beginning.[1]

An Axis Mundi has nothing to do with the Catholic belief of "Purgatory".

**Bearcat** · 02-29-2008, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

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4. Desmond HAS been traveling to the present and the future (just like in last year's episode) which clearly explains why he was trying to protect Charlie. He KNEW he was going to die because he'd been there each time (I'm expecting a future episode to reveal their true relationship).

Yeah, I'm thinking whenever his ship wrecks, whatever happens when he leaves is sort of reversed and it all comes back to him. He has the deja vu in London with Charlie, so it seems like "his constant" keeps him alive, but doesn't do anything as far as memory.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'll give you the answer right now:

The island is an Axis Mundi.

It's a portal that exists between Earth and "Heaven". Time has no meaning there. People can't get pregnant and create "new life" there. It's a gateway. And there's two opposing forces trying to control it: Ben's organization and Widmore's organization.

So there you go.

Funnny, since that was predicted a couple of seasons ago by a large number of people, who had to repeatedly be told it wasn't limbo.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-29-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Yeah, I'm thinking whenever his ship wrecks, whatever happens when he leaves is sort of reversed and it all comes back to him. He has the deja vu in London with Charlie, so it seems like "his constant" keeps him alive, but doesn't do anything as far as memory.

Funnny, since that was predicted a couple of seasons ago by a large number of people, who had to repeatedly be told it wasn't limbo.

Limbo isn't an Axis Mundi

teedubya · 02-29-2008, 08:25 PM

I like how Richard hasn't aged since Ben was a Kid... meaning that something weird does indeed happen to age on the island.

Of course, many others have aged. Supposedly, Richard is an original crew member of the Black Rock ship.

**Baby Lee** · 03-01-2008, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs

I like how Richard hasn't aged since Ben was a Kid... meaning that something weird does indeed happen to age on the island.

Of course, many others have aged. Supposedly, Richard is an original crew member of the Black Rock ship.

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

My point was that there's a picture from Ben's childhood [or at least his childhood girlfriend's childhood] where there's a book copyrighted September 2000 on the shelf.

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tomahawk kid · 03-01-2008, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Psyko Tek

hokay check me here
the log of the black rock was bought by penny's daddy for a very large some of money

it was in possession of the hanso family for years

but 96 had to be well after the hanso foundation was started

and how did penny figure out des was connected to this island

and why am I rambleing on like this

When did the episode mention that the log book was in the possession on the Hanso people?

Did I miss something?

**Baby Lee** · 03-01-2008, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

When did the episode mention that the log book was in the possession on the Hanso people?

Did I miss something?

The auctioneer said so.

**Baby Lee** · 03-01-2008, 10:21 AM

Has anyone considered that the 'Oceanic Six' are comprised of people who feel strongly that they have a constant they can rely on and contact. That would explain why Kate has Aaron, Claire doesn't have a constant but wants Aaron to have a life off the island.

Just a thought, though I dunno what Hurley's constant is. Kate and Jack have each other, Siyiid has his love [whose name escapes me]. Spoiler Jin and Sun have each other

teedubya · 03-01-2008, 09:42 PM

I think the Oceanic Six are...

Jack
Kate
Sayid
Hurley
Walt
Michael

Ben wasn't on manifest. Desmond wasn't on manifest. Aaron wasn't on manifest.

Also, I found this and thought it amusing.

**Rausch** · 03-03-2008, 11:32 AM

I think there's a reason everything seems to revolve around magnetism. Gravity/magnetism, if strong enough, can bend spacetime. Electromagnetism is used to "unstick" characters in time. Then there's the time difference on the island.

But there does have to be something else going on with Richard. People do age on the island, the dead do rot, the ships and buildings decay. Time might pass slower/faster but it seems clear Richard is either younger or not getting older due to something else. Perhaps he uses a more "pure" form of time travel instead of just his consciousness.

**Rausch** · 03-03-2008, 12:14 PM

Was reading another LOST bb and someone said to watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gERdALb5vQ

It's supposed to have something to do with the last episode. I can't watch it here at work.

SithCeNtZ · 03-03-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Was reading another LOST bb and someone said to watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gERdALb5vQ

It's supposed to have something to do with the last episode. I can't watch it here at work.

It suggests that they have some sort of time machine. Not really sure how it ties into last weeks episode though.

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02-29-2008, 06:52 PM	#2674
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	The axis mundi (also cosmic axis, world axis, world pillar and center of the world) is a symbol representing the mythical point of connection between sky and earth. It is claimed to offer a means of travel and correspondence between the two realms. It is also alleged to be the place where the four compass directions unite, allowing treasure from heaven to be disseminated throughout the world. This is said to place it at the center of the world: at its omphalos (navel), the world's point of beginning.[1] An Axis Mundi has nothing to do with the Catholic belief of "Purgatory".
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02-29-2008, 08:25 PM	#2677
teedubya Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $9480002	I like how Richard hasn't aged since Ben was a Kid... meaning that something weird does indeed happen to age on the island. Of course, many others have aged. Supposedly, Richard is an original crew member of the Black Rock ship.
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03-01-2008, 10:21 AM	#2681
Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $6838598	Has anyone considered that the 'Oceanic Six' are comprised of people who feel strongly that they have a constant they can rely on and contact. That would explain why Kate has Aaron, Claire doesn't have a constant but wants Aaron to have a life off the island. Just a thought, though I dunno what Hurley's constant is. Kate and Jack have each other, Siyiid has his love [whose name escapes me]. Spoiler Jin and Sun have each other __________________ We need the kind of courage that can withstand the subtle corruption of the cynics - E.W.
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03-01-2008, 09:42 PM	#2682
teedubya Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $9480002	I think the Oceanic Six are... Jack Kate Sayid Hurley Walt Michael Ben wasn't on manifest. Desmond wasn't on manifest. Aaron wasn't on manifest. Also, I found this and thought it amusing.
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