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Old 10-09-2014, 12:36 PM  
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Eric Berry
We know what it's going to cost to keep him. Question is he worth the money? Has this defense missed him?

I think there's a noticeable difference without Berry against the run. The pass defense looks similar though.

For a team in cap trouble I don't think Berry is a must re-sign guy.
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Old 10-09-2014, 01:51 PM   #46
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5 catches for 46 yards 1 td. Oh man, he got clowned so so hard.
He really did. Most of those catches were for a 1st down. Fleener just smoked him on the TD.
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Old 10-09-2014, 01:52 PM   #47
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I do think berry plays undisplined at times, relying on his athleticism too much instead of just playing sound.
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Old 10-09-2014, 01:52 PM   #48
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The run defense is hardly the result of Eric Berry being out. It's more the fact that we're missing two starting ILBs.

Abdullah has been very consistent both in coverage and in run support when asked to play near the LOS. He is rarely ever out of place and is a pretty good play maker in his own right around the LOS.

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Right. But my point is that Berry would HELP in run defense.

And i agree that Abdullah is a good player.

The right answer is probably what O.City said, you don't stick him at either FS or SS, you move him around and play him where he needs to be played on a given play.
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And which one couldn't beat out Lewis for the starting job last year?
Pretty sure now with the level of play that Abdullah has displayed, that was all on the coaching staff trusting in Lewis' ability to make calls on defense and the fact that Abdullah had been out of football for a year.
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He really did. Most of those catches were for a 1st down. Fleener just smoked him on the TD.
5 catches for 46 yards isn't clowned, any way you slice it. Also Fleener is 6-6 260lbs. Yeah, Berry might lose some of those matchups. Stop acting like Fleener got loose and had a career day.
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Pretty sure now with the level of play that Abdullah has displayed, that was all on the coaching staff trusting in Lewis' ability to make calls on defense and the fact that Abdullah had been out of football for a year.
Yet Abdullah is better than Berry?
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Pretty sure now with the level of play that Abdullah has displayed, that was all on the coaching staff trusting in Lewis' ability to make calls on defense and the fact that Abdullah had been out of football for a year.
Or the fact that Abdullah is a SS, not a FS.
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I think it would be a great situation to have berry Abdullah, Parker and that other dude (Coleman I think) at safety.

Lotta athleticism
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Yet Abdullah is better than Berry?
I would put Berry at single high when he returns. This defense needs and Earl Thomas to cover deep.

Abdullah does Berry's job about as well as him at SS. He's been a good run stuffer and his coverage has been solid. Is there really a huge difference between the two at SS?

We need that single high safety so bad. If Berry proves he can be that guy, then he's worth the money. If not, why have 2 good players at the same position when one is so much more?
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Abdullah hasn't been as good as berry.

Good? Sure

All pro good like Eric? No
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Abdullah does Berry's job about as well as him at SS.
Not even close.

Abduallah is a good player, i get that, but Berry is a play maker.

Abdullah has what, 2 TFL's this season and both came last week.

He is a good player, but you're crazy if you think he's Berry.
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He and DJ are as good as gone. And u think Houston will join them.
Yep, that's my call too.

Houston? No way in hell.
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Yep, that's my call too.

Houston? No way in hell.
There's really no reason to lose DJ, so i don't know why you guys are just jumping to that conclusion. He's an all pro, Pro bowler set to only make 5 mill next season.
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There's really no reason to lose DJ, so i don't know why you guys are just jumping to that conclusion. He's an all pro, Pro bowler set to only make 5 mill next season.
No sense paying a 10 year veteran that will likely lose most of his speed and agility on a rebuilding roster.

The Chiefs need to be setting themselves up for winning 10+ games in 2017. Keeping DJ around means they're playing for 7 to 9 wins in a year.

It's time to let DJ go.
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There's really no reason to lose DJ, so i don't know why you guys are just jumping to that conclusion. He's an all pro, Pro bowler set to only make 5 mill next season.
If the team doesn't let go of DJ then who the **** is Dorsey going to use his first pick on to replace?
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The Chiefs need to be setting themselves up for winning 10+ games in 2017. Keeping DJ around means they're playing for 7 to 9 wins in a year.
Dafuq?

5mill isn't shit for a player of his caliber. That's hardly a dent in the cap. Paying him doesn't mean dick about the direction the Chiefs are headed.
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