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Old 01-11-2014, 11:43 AM  
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Will Charles hold out for a better contract?

Jamal is going to be paid a paltry $2.5 million in 2014. Thats not a typo. $2.5 million. One of the best running backs with 2-3 years left of prime time in his career..........I'm sure his agent is whispering in his ear. The Chiefs know its an insulting salary to pay one of the best RB's in the league.

You can say he signed it, play the contract out. But, its the real world.

NFL RB's that hold out always, always get their money. The template is clear. If Charles would set out a year, he loses $2.5 Million. You think he doesn't make that up in a new contract next year.

Anyone want to bet that the Chiefs give Charles a new contract this off season to avoid a nasty contract fight?
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Old 01-11-2014, 12:13 PM   #16
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The NFL has learned all too many times that putting too much into a RB can burn you. I see giving him more, but I'd not sell the farm to keep him. So it's a yes and a no; yes to a raise, but no to something crazy.

Find out what he's going to demand and see what else that same money can bring if spread around.

Then again, **** these assholes! Not JC's fault (he was hurt!!!), but the , like the entire NFL, are learning the reality of losing your workhorse. Plan for it...
No, you don't give him 5 years of top 5 RB money with a signing bonus. Redo the contract, increase it by two years to 2016. Just increase the money for the next 3 years. Give him another $10 million signing bonus.
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Old 01-11-2014, 12:14 PM   #17
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You called 2.5M "insulting" but you didn't mention the fine print re: bonuses. Dunno why you'd get mad for someone pointing that out.
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Old 01-11-2014, 12:22 PM   #18
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Old 01-11-2014, 12:25 PM   #19
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Pioli totally robbed JC. Pioli was good on this department except for the Cassel contract.

If I were him I'd hold out.
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Old 01-11-2014, 12:26 PM   #20
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Jamal is going to be paid a paltry $2.5 million in 2014. Thats not a typo. $2.5 million. One of the best running backs with 2-3 years left of prime time in his career..........I'm sure his agent is whispering in his ear. The Chiefs know its an insulting salary to pay one of the best RB's in the league.

You can say he signed it, play the contract out. But, its the real world.

NFL RB's that hold out always, always get their money. The template is clear. If Charles would set out a year, he loses $2.5 Million. You think he doesn't make that up in a new contract next year.

Anyone want to bet that the Chiefs give Charles a new contract this off season to avoid a nasty contract fight?
Not always. MJD couldn't pull it with the Jags.
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Old 01-11-2014, 12:33 PM   #21
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If he wants to get paid (and I agree that he's underpaid), now is the time to drop powerful hints. It's the NFL. His next play could be his last.
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Old 01-11-2014, 12:36 PM   #22
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He could try, but it is becoming more evident in the NFL quality running backs are not hard to find...take Charles a third round pick...his back up who played well in a playoff game as a rookie also a third round pick. The Browns/Colts trade proved this season that teams overvalue running backs. Of the top five running backs this season only one was a first round pick.
If he can get it...go for it, but with all the holes and other cap issues the Chiefs have and new deal will have to be cap friendly.
Well said. And the best years of a RB are the first 5. From here on out to give JC a new big ass contract would be stupid now that he has already endured a serious knee injury and especially now that 'concussions' are the way of the future and make it even more difficult for a player to complete a 16 game schedule(whether it is legit or the player is faking it because he wants a few days off-which you know that is already happening to some degree now and will only get worse). I'm not saying JC faked this at all and think he has great character BUT you saw the play he went out on and JC was barely touched if at all and it was a simple hard fall to the ground. Would you give this guy a big ass contract after that?
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Old 01-11-2014, 12:41 PM   #23
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cut jamaal we have joe mcknight
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Old 01-11-2014, 12:44 PM   #24
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Old 01-11-2014, 12:48 PM   #25
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He has two years on his contract, not just one. Sitting out would effect both of those years. As has been pointed out his contract is incentive laden.
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Old 01-11-2014, 01:40 PM   #26
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Duno where to put this....

@NFLDraftBites: @Jacobs71 Chiefs cap issues w/ key FAs & guys clamoring for extensions. Fisher must rebound. Might say Good Bye to Hali, Johnson or Flowers
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Old 01-11-2014, 01:46 PM   #27
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He doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would force the Chiefs to give him a pay-raise, but boy oh boy does he deserve one.
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As has been pointed out his contract is incentive laden.
Not enough incentives to make it even close to what a top 5 RB should get paid.
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Old 01-11-2014, 01:58 PM   #29
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@NFLDraftBites: @Jacobs71 Chiefs cap issues w/ key FAs & guys clamoring for extensions. Fisher must rebound. Might say Good Bye to Hali, Johnson or Flowers
Fisher has to step up. We can't afford Albert or draft picks for O-line tackles. Stephenson and Fisher have to be our O-line tackles.
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If he asks them, I think they would. And as for having two years left. Yeah, Desean Jackson just asked to have his contract redone. He just signed it two years ago.
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