Chiefs We shouldn't be surprised really. - Page 2

Wallcrawler · 01-21-2019, 09:05 AM

This really sucks, but this has happened repeatedly through nfl history. Teams with an amazing offense and sub par defense do not win the big game. If your killer offense falters just a little, youre in big trouble.

I felt like Mahomes played pretty badly last night, despite his final numbers. Missing a wide open Williams for a TD, then taking a 14 yard sack to remove a shot at 3 points.

His throws were wild, and high on several occasions, and more than once I was screaming at my screen WHAT THE **** ARE YOU DOING PATRICK?!? When we scored 0 in the first half, it was always there that without a miracle, we werent winning the game.

Reid did nothing to help the defense by burning that timeout in the first half, when the Pats seemed fine with just 7 points. He essentially stabbed Bob Sutton in the balls with an icepick, and gifted the Pats another 7 points. Another indictment on Reids ability to assess a situation and properly use or not use time outs.

The hardest part of all, is that the chiefs did get the miracle. Tom Bradys THIRD interception of the night with 45 seconds left. Only to have it snatched away because Dee Ford couldn't handle the complexity of lining up correctly.

In typical, crushing fashion, we go on to lose the game after losing the toss.

The pats did nothing special. Edelman and Gronk were the go to guys, and they pretty much were wide open on every crucial down.

Pat never saw the field in OT, as Bobs bend and eventually break scheme was running on all cylinders.

People will blame Dee Ford for the loss, and I get it. But Andy really shit his pants in this game. It never should have came down to that, but Andy refuses to hold the ball, drain the clock and leave the opponent no time left.

I get score when you can, but you have to know the situation. You simply cannot leave time on the clock for Tom Brady if you do not have a great defense.

Defense must be addressed, at this point itscall we can do. Reid isnt going to suddenly git gud at situational football. Pat by himself isnt enough to win in spite of Reid's dumbassery.

It sucks that they lost, but knowing that we have Mahomes, and that he's going to get better, it makes it much easier to take.

Trim the fat this offseason.

FAX · 01-21-2019, 10:06 AM

LOL ... so many dumbasses. So little time.

FAX

kcclone · 01-21-2019, 10:39 AM

I agree with the OP's sentiment that you WILL NEED to play D to win a Super Bowl. You will need to have an OL that controls the LOS to win the SB.

I hope Andy Reid gets that. I'm not sure he does. I'll lose my mind if we draft 2 WR's in the top 3 picks or some crazy sh*t like that.

You have to:

1. Fire Sutton. You at least have to try to improve the scheme.
2. Draft D and OL heavy in the next 3 drafts
3. Plan for the day when we don't have a record setting offense, because that day is coming (contracts $$$$)
4. Work on the short passing game because at some point, you're gonna face a D that can limit the long ball and rush the passer. It's impossible to defend a smart, accurate passer who can get the ball out in 1-1.5 seconds.

DwB49 · 01-21-2019, 10:59 AM

I know it won't make anyone feel better, but the fact is that a rookie QB has never taken a team to the SB and never will,period! Although MArino came close in '84, and sure that 'MA' is just a coincidence...maybe?
But I really think their 'D' left a lot out on the field against the Colts, which they actually matched up well against. I've always said that all a coach has to do is copy exactly what the Giants did to them in BOTH SB's...but guess no one is interested in actually doing something that makes sense and maybe even beating those guys?!?

scho63 · 01-21-2019, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 3rd&Long

On a side note, I thought Tony Romo's analysis was amazing, calling out plays and where the ball should go before the snap several times and he was always right. If the Chiefs had someone half that bright on the field or the coaching staff the outcome very well could have been different.

Tony Romo has turned into my favorite guy in the booth, just exceptional. Really knows what goes on and doesn't bloviate like Jon Gruden or Cris Collinsworth does.

Now about his former teammate Jason Whitten.......

Sandy Vagina · 01-21-2019, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I guess I don't get the pessimism.

We made the AFC championship game and did better than most AFC teams knocking out a team that's been steamrolling playoff teams for a decade. And by all accounts... we should have won. We did it in ways that are totally off script for Chiefs fans.

We lost by a coin flip. We know we have a franchise QB who's not only great but a playoff gamer. He also showed us that he's got some things to work on which can help him improve from a 31 pt performance which is pretty insane.

I'm pissed, defeated, everything in between. But let's not set the mopy narrative that this is the same old Chiefs. This was one hell of a season.

I need to read no further. This is where it's at, and until the Chiefs replace Bob Sutton, it will continue to be.

Sandy Vagina · 01-21-2019, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DwB49

I know it won't make anyone feel better, but the fact is that a rookie QB has never taken a team to the SB and never will,period!

are u somehow unaware that Mahomes is.. not a rookie?

vailpass · 01-21-2019, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by YouWereWarned76

You people disrespected and under-appreciated the Pats ability to win this game all week, talking about Kelce, Hill, fantasy stats, etc.

You were warned that this was not the Chargers, Ravens, Texans, etc.

Now, you'll pay the consequences as a fan.

This one here is a BAD motha****a.

01-21-2019, 09:05 AM
Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $4192912	We shouldn't be surprised really. This really sucks, but this has happened repeatedly through nfl history. Teams with an amazing offense and sub par defense do not win the big game. If your killer offense falters just a little, youre in big trouble. I felt like Mahomes played pretty badly last night, despite his final numbers. Missing a wide open Williams for a TD, then taking a 14 yard sack to remove a shot at 3 points. His throws were wild, and high on several occasions, and more than once I was screaming at my screen WHAT THE **** ARE YOU DOING PATRICK?!? When we scored 0 in the first half, it was always there that without a miracle, we werent winning the game. Reid did nothing to help the defense by burning that timeout in the first half, when the Pats seemed fine with just 7 points. He essentially stabbed Bob Sutton in the balls with an icepick, and gifted the Pats another 7 points. Another indictment on Reids ability to assess a situation and properly use or not use time outs. The hardest part of all, is that the chiefs did get the miracle. Tom Bradys THIRD interception of the night with 45 seconds left. Only to have it snatched away because Dee Ford couldn't handle the complexity of lining up correctly. In typical, crushing fashion, we go on to lose the game after losing the toss. The pats did nothing special. Edelman and Gronk were the go to guys, and they pretty much were wide open on every crucial down. Pat never saw the field in OT, as Bobs bend and eventually break scheme was running on all cylinders. People will blame Dee Ford for the loss, and I get it. But Andy really shit his pants in this game. It never should have came down to that, but Andy refuses to hold the ball, drain the clock and leave the opponent no time left. I get score when you can, but you have to know the situation. You simply cannot leave time on the clock for Tom Brady if you do not have a great defense. Defense must be addressed, at this point itscall we can do. Reid isnt going to suddenly git gud at situational football. Pat by himself isnt enough to win in spite of Reid's dumbassery. It sucks that they lost, but knowing that we have Mahomes, and that he's going to get better, it makes it much easier to take. Trim the fat this offseason.
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01-21-2019, 10:06 AM	#16
FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	LOL ... so many dumbasses. So little time. FAX
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01-21-2019, 10:39 AM	#17
kcclone Veteran Join Date: Jan 2014 Casino cash: $3694900	I agree with the OP's sentiment that you WILL NEED to play D to win a Super Bowl. You will need to have an OL that controls the LOS to win the SB. I hope Andy Reid gets that. I'm not sure he does. I'll lose my mind if we draft 2 WR's in the top 3 picks or some crazy sht like that. You have to: 1. Fire Sutton. You at least have to try to improve the scheme. 2. Draft D and OL heavy in the next 3 drafts 3. Plan for the day when we don't have a record setting offense, because that day is coming (contracts $$$$) 4. Work on the short passing game because at some point, you're gonna face a D that can limit the long ball and rush the passer. It's impossible to defend a smart, accurate passer who can get the ball out in 1-1.5 seconds. Last edited by kcclone; 01-21-2019 at 10:49 AM..*
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01-21-2019, 10:59 AM	#18
DwB49 Rookie Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Atlanta Casino cash: $10000400	I know it won't make anyone feel better, but the fact is that a rookie QB has never taken a team to the SB and never will,period! Although MArino came close in '84, and sure that 'MA' is just a coincidence...maybe? But I really think their 'D' left a lot out on the field against the Colts, which they actually matched up well against. I've always said that all a coach has to do is copy exactly what the Giants did to them in BOTH SB's...but guess no one is interested in actually doing something that makes sense and maybe even beating those guys?!?
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