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Old 05-30-2012, 12:29 AM  
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Baldwin emerges as the Chiefs’ go-to receiver in single coverage



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Jonathan Baldwin established a reputation for making the near-impossible catch last year with an around-the-defender grab of a pass against the Denver Broncos.

He solidified it at the Chiefs’ practice on Tuesday, when he made a one-handed diving grab of a Matt Cassel pass for a touchdown over cornerback Stanford Routt. Baldwin’s ability to go up and get a pass has prompted Cassel and other Chiefs quarterbacks to attempt throws to Baldwin in one-on-one coverage that they might not make to other receivers.

By now, they’re aware the 6-foot-4, 230-pound Baldwin has a distinct size advantage over most cornerbacks and will win most jump-ball opportunities.

“He’s a guy that likes to go up and compete,” Cassel said, “and there’s not a lot of corners in the league that can go up vertically with him.

“Guys like that, you have to give them an opportunity to make a play. He’s such a big target, and he’s so physical that you just kind of have to put it in the vicinity and try not to overthrow him. Just give him an opportunity to go up and out-battle somebody for the ball.”

In this case, that somebody was Routt, who, at 6-foot-1, is tall for a cornerback. But he was no match for Baldwin on this particular play.

Routt, left alone with Baldwin down the sideline, wrestled with the bigger receiver as the ball was on its way.

In a game, Routt probably would’ve been called for pass interference. He wound up pinning one of Baldwin’s arms against his body as the receiver reached for the pass.

Routt’s biggest mistake was in not pinning both of Baldwin’s arms. Baldwin made the catch one-handed, and all Routt could do afterward was shake his head.

“It happens,” Routt said. “I’m not worried about it. It’s football. Sometimes you make the play, and sometimes he makes the play.”

The catch came with just seconds remaining in a two-minute drill near the end of practice and was just the kind of thing the Chiefs envisioned when they made Baldwin their first-round draft pick last year.

“It was a two-minute situation and the coach is always talking about making plays,” Baldwin said. “I just had to step up and make a play.

“As receivers, we always want to go and make the play. I just want to make every play I possibly can. I was fortunate to make the play.”

Count Cassel among the impressed.

“The one against Denver was pretty impressive last year,” Cassel said. “But it was a great catch. Those are the kind of plays you need, especially in a two-minute drill.”

In addition to his reception against the Broncos, which was erased by a penalty not involving Baldwin, the Chiefs got a taste of his knack for the big catch in a Monday night win over the San Diego Chargers. Baldwin went over cornerback Marcus Gilchrist to catch a 39-yard touchdown pass.

Otherwise, the Chiefs mostly failed last season to use Baldwin to their advantage. That was his only touchdown as a rookie and the longest play among his 21 receptions.

But plays like the one in practice Tuesday suggest the Chiefs will try harder to find ways to get Baldwin matched up in single coverage.

“When you have a guy like Jon, there’s a bigger window,” reserve quarterback Ricky Stanzi said. “He’s a big body, and he has great hands. You always want to put the ball right on him, but you do have a better chance if you do miss for him to come up and make a play. He can make your mistakes look really good.”

Routt now knows that as well as anyone. While with the Raiders last season, he played twice against Baldwin and the Chiefs. But Baldwin had just two catches against Oakland, the longest going for 14 yards.

“It’s the same thing when you have to defend any tall receiver,” Routt said. “Obviously, (be aware of) the jump ball. Obviously, you’ve got to be a little more physical with him because he’s a bigger target.

“He uses his body pretty good. On that catch, he did a pretty good job. I know last year, he was a rookie and he was young. But you can tell he’s definitely taken some strides since last year.”

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Old 05-30-2012, 11:01 AM   #31
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The plan will be to single cover Bowe all day because he isn't a big play threat and then don't worry about Baldwin unless he is running a go route.
, Baldwin has prototypical size and hands to be an excellent possession receiver. Add in his speed, and he as qualities that can make him a legitimate #1. He may never be, but the physical traits are all there. Simply needs reps, which he is getting due to Bowe being out.
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Baldwin needs to learn how to be a receiver. As it stands now, all he can do is run in a straight line and jump really high. This is why I feel letting go of Haley was a mistake. He was a mastermind at coaching WR's.
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Old 05-30-2012, 11:08 AM   #33
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We will have to ease Jamaal into the offense. The first 8 weeks of the year we shouldn't give him more than 10 carries in any game.
I think you're being over cautious. He had surgery on his knee, not his neck.
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Just because they can easily single cover those below average Donkey recievers, doesn't make it true for everyone.
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Baldwin needs to learn how to be a receiver. As it stands now, all he can do is run in a straight line and jump really high. This is why I feel letting go of Haley was a mistake. He was a mastermind at coaching WR's.
No. That was the route (pun not intended) Demaryius Thomas had to follow. All HE could do as a rookie was run in a straight line.

Baldwin was the most NFL-ready WR in the draft behind Jones and Green last year.
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I'm liking what I hear about this Routt guy.
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No. That was the route (pun not intended) Demaryius Thomas had to follow. All HE could do as a rookie was run in a straight line.

Baldwin was the most NFL-ready WR in the draft behind Jones and Green last year.
That was the book on DT coming out, and he still isn't a polished route runner but isn't just a go-route WR anymore. DT is more of an athlete though. He is incredibly agile for a guy his size. He moves like a 5'11'' 190 pound guy.

I saw all of Baldwin's highlight tapes coming out and all I remember was him jumping over guys down the sideline.
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That was the book on Delirium Tremens coming out, and he still isn't a polished route runner but isn't just a go-route WR anymore. Delirium Tremens is more of an athlete though. He is incredibly agile for a guy his size. He moves like a 5'11'' 190 pound guy.

I have no clue what I'm talking about regarding Baldwin.
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I think you're being over cautious. He had surgery on his knee, not his neck.
Jamaal's legs are what pay his bills. Peyton's arm and knowledge of the game pay his. The neck thing is a non-issue.
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The plan will be to single cover Bowe all day because he isn't a big play threat and then don't worry about Baldwin unless he is running a go route.
Bowe raped Champ in the finale even though you guys bracketed him.

Who the **** on your team could single cover either of our wideouts?

Welching little bitch.
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Baldwin emerges as the Chiefs’ go-to receiver in single coverage


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Bowe raped Champ in the finale even though you guys bracketed him.

Who the **** on your team could single cover either of our wideouts?

Welching little bitch.
You still have a couple more months to believe this before the reality of the horror that is the Chiefs offense sets in.
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