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Old 02-27-2013, 12:45 PM  
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Alex Smith did, does, and will always suck. (part 2)




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Old 12-17-2013, 06:04 PM   #421
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"Great" QB is so subjective anyway.
Speaking of that, i HAVE to disagree with one of your takes... i will take Tom Brady over your Peyton Manning eight days a week.

Brady may not read a defense quite as well, but i believe him to be the more inspirational leader, you never see that firey sumbitch slump his shoulders... dude always has nails in his eyes, no matter the scenario.

One game for all the marbles?... its gotta be Brady.
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Old 12-17-2013, 06:05 PM   #422
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Speaking of that, i HAVE to disagree with one of your takes... i will take Tom Brady over your Peyton Manning eight days a week.

Brady may not read a defense quite as well, but i believe him to be the more inspirational leader, you never see that firey sumbitch slump his shoulders... dude always has nails in his eyes, no matter the scenario.

One game for all the marbles?... its gotta be Brady.
Not sure I ever said I'd take Manning over Brady...
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Old 12-17-2013, 06:06 PM   #423
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As if that game vs. the Saints just never ****ing happened.

I understand it doesn't completely validate him as a postseason QB, but you can't just ****ing ignore it.

So much jackassery in this thread.
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Old 12-17-2013, 06:07 PM   #424
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Oh bullshit.

In 2009 and 2010 he was a competent QB, from 2011-2013 he's been a very good one.

He has 30 games of 'shitty' QB play from 2005-2007 and 60+ games of competent or better play from 2009 forward.

Its your complete inability to keep from overplaying your hand that makes these arguments completely intolerable. It's like you and others eventually get frustrated by speaking cogently to the topic because its hard to continue slamming the guy that route. So eventually you just say something really really stupid like "Alex Smith has been a shitty quarterback for the majority of his career".
Your idea of competent is much, much different from mine.

An average of 2300 yards, 16 TD's and 11 INT's is not "competent" in my book.
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Old 12-17-2013, 06:10 PM   #425
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Not sure I ever said I'd take Manning over Brady...
Huh... i could swear i'd seen that comparison somewhere, guess not or i was thinking of someone else.

My bad, man.
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Old 12-17-2013, 06:16 PM   #426
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Huh... i could swear i'd seen that comparison somewhere, guess not or i was thinking of someone else.

My bad, man.
No problem. I might have said it at one time, just don't remember it. (Certainly not where my heads at currently, I'd take Brady over Manning every day and twice on Sunday)
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Old 12-17-2013, 06:19 PM   #427
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You can't ignore ANY of his games, regular or postseason.

I see one or two people that aren't completely cherry picking in this thread.
Nope.

Let's just look at the odd numbered weeks in even numbered months over the past three seasons.
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Old 12-17-2013, 06:30 PM   #428
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So looking at Smith's most recent seasons is cherry picking?

What is he 38-7-1 in his last 46 starts?

Small sample size.
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Old 12-17-2013, 06:31 PM   #429
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So looking at Smith's most recent seasons is cherry picking?

What is he 38-7-1 in his last 46 starts?

Small sample size.
Of course I didn't say that.

But the majority of the people here are looking at his 5 most recent GAMES, not SEASONS.

Again, jumping to conclusions.
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Old 12-17-2013, 06:32 PM   #430
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Let's also not forget that other QBs have actually succeeded under similar circumstances. Tom Brady survived Josh McDaniels and a bunch of shit WRs.

Again, the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
Didn't they get Josh McDaniels back, so wtf are you talking about? I'm talking about Mike Nolan, and Mike Singletary here! F'n Mike Nolan and Mike Singletary as his HC! Those guys had no business being in those positions. Now name the QBs that have succeeded in similar circumstances where they had a new offensive coordinator every year, a defensive minded coach, and Arnaz Battle type WRs to throw to.
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So looking at Smith's most recent seasons is cherry picking?

What is he 38-7-1 in his last 46 starts?

Small sample size.
It's funny right. Yet they Cherry pick that 3-30-1 stat when he was on some awful teams.
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It's funny right. Yet they Cherry pick that 3-30-1 stat when he was on some awful teams.
So Clay is "they" now?
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Didn't they get Josh McDaniels back, so wtf are you talking about? I'm talking about Mike Nolan, and Mike Singletary here! F'n Mike Nolan and Mike Singletary as his HC! Those guys had no business being in those positions. Now name the QBs that have succeeded in similar circumstances where they had a new offensive coordinator every year, a defensive minded coach, and Arnaz Battle type WRs to throw to.
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So looking at Smith's most recent seasons is cherry picking?

What is he 38-7-1 in his last 46 starts?

Small sample size.
cher·ry–pick
intransitive verb \ˈcher-ē-ˌpik\

: to select the best or most desirable


He's started 94 games, so yeah, to only choose his 46 best games is cherry picking.

I'm pretty sure you knew that, though.
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So looking at Smith's most recent seasons is cherry picking?

What is he 38-7-1 in his last 46 starts?

Small sample size.
By the way, the very definition of "cherry picking" is that DJ's Left Nut is literally THE ONLY PERSON IN THIS THREAD looking at Smith's "most recent seasons".
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