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Old 11-04-2018, 01:45 PM  
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Ron Torbort should be fired

Atrocious job by Torbort and his crew today:

- Atrocious spots of the ball
- Missed holdings on Browns receivers in red zone
- Dee Ford strip sack and recovery taken away on a clean play nobody flagged
- Chiefs decline Cleveland penalty, CLOCK SHOULD BE RUNNING. Torbort ****s up and misinterprets situation moving Chiefs out of FG range and costing them a timeout.

Quit propping up shit franchises NFL. Browns made their own bed. They best lie in it.

Horrible.
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Old 11-04-2018, 04:18 PM   #31
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Reid was pretty diplomatic about it after the game but basically said he knows the rule book pretty well and that they made up a new rule on the intentional grounding call at the end of the first half.

What a god awful crew. Terrible.
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Old 11-04-2018, 04:18 PM   #32
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They won't fire her even if she's horrid because of SJW shit.
Well, you can't fire a woman; that's sexist.
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Old 11-04-2018, 04:21 PM   #33
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I swear that horse face looking ref woman pulled me over and gave me a ticket one time.
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Old 11-04-2018, 04:28 PM   #34
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The Browns lead the entire NFL in sacks against. And we're to believe that they didn't commit one single offensive holding penalty today?
Nothing about it makes any sense, anytime a team doesnt get at least one O holding call... the refs simply werent looking to call it

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Old 11-04-2018, 04:34 PM   #35
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Why do people, Trent included, say nobody was flagged on Ford's sack/fumble. Ford was flagged. You can clearly see the LJ at the top of the screen throw the flag for a clear offsides by Ford.
Clear offsides?
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Old 11-04-2018, 04:42 PM   #36
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Reid was pretty diplomatic about it after the game but basically said he knows the rule book pretty well and that they made up a new rule on the intentional grounding call at the end of the first half.

What a god awful crew. Terrible.
The sad thing is the refs flat out ****ing lied when they announced the call.

And now most people are convinced that's part of the rule.

If there is no pressure on the QB, THERE IS NO GROUNDING. PERIOD.
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Old 11-04-2018, 04:51 PM   #37
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The sad thing is the refs flat out ****ing lied when they announced the call.

And now most people are convinced that's part of the rule.

If there is no pressure on the QB, THERE IS NO GROUNDING. PERIOD.
They were saying he snapped the ball before the play clock was started too, which was also obvious bullshit.

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Old 11-04-2018, 05:03 PM   #38
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The intentional grounding call was correct.
  1. There was on offsides penalty against the Browns on the previous play that we declined.
  2. This means the game clock is stopped within 2 minutes in the first half (even if the penalty is declined).
  3. You can only legally spike it when the game clock is running before the play.
  4. 1 second ran off because that's how long it took Mahomes to spike it.

Er - that's assuming that #3 is actually a rule.
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Old 11-04-2018, 05:06 PM   #39
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When they showed the replay of the Dee Ford play, there was a flag just on the defensive side of the LOS. No clue what the penalty was, but at least the flag was there after the snap.

The announcers were saying they never saw a flag. Still doesn't mean whatever the call was was the right call.
The announcers completely butchered that whole play and aftermath about as bad as I've ever seen.
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Old 11-04-2018, 05:06 PM   #40
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The intentional grounding call was correct.
  1. There was on offsides penalty against the Browns on the previous play that we declined.
  2. This means the game clock is stopped within 2 minutes in the first half (even if the penalty is declined).
  3. You can only legally spike it when the game clock is running before the play.
  4. 1 second ran off because that's how long it took Mahomes to spike it.

Er - that's assuming that #3 is actually a rule.
Wrong.

WRONG. WRONG. WRONG.

There MUST be pressure on the QB for an intentional grounding penalty to be called.

IT'S IN THE ****ING RULEBOOK

None of that shit in your post is.

THEY MADE THAT SHIT UP

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Old 11-04-2018, 05:07 PM   #41
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The premise of the thread doesn't work. The official was doing exactly what the NFL told him to do, which was avoid an ugly blowout right after a team fired their main coaches.
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Old 11-04-2018, 05:07 PM   #42
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Old 11-04-2018, 05:08 PM   #43
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Wrong.

WRONG. WRONG. WRONG.

There MUST be pressure on the QB for an intentional grounding penalty to be called.

IT'S IN THE ****ING RULEBOOK

None of that shit in your post is.

THEY MADE THAT SHIT UP

*autistic screeching*
Ok let's break this down. The only thing we're disputing here is #3 right?
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Old 11-04-2018, 05:08 PM   #44
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It was definitely one of the worst officiate games I’ve seen, and that is saying a lot because the officiating in this league is so up and down and inconsistent


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Pretty sure the only time a spike is intentional grounding is if you look at a receiver first, why would you not be able to spike a ball on a clock that is stopped?

I've seen a punter do it after a team called T/O on a bad snap, that didn't draw a penalty.

The refs just didn't know what they were doing.
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