Chiefs People blaming Cassel for this loss are clearly maladjusted freaks. - Page 5

yhf · 10-17-2010, 10:06 PM

For Christs sake, blame the coaches, blame the refs, blame the defense.

Do NOT blame Matt Cassel. He provided a winning effort.

C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT RATING
M. Cassel 20/29 201 6.9 3 0 122.9

Anyone that asks for more production, is, a dumb****.

Don't get me wrong, I doubt the shit out of Cassel, but his performance in this game was extremely encouraging. Any purported Chiefs fan that wasn't impressed and pleased by his play should just... get a ****ing grip.

Hootie · 10-17-2010, 10:51 PM

you guys think Peyton Mannings grow on trees...

Trent Green heavily relied on the running game to get his numbers, too...

every time we needed Trent on the last drive in a game where we needed a score...he choked up too without Priest Holmes and the element of a running game there to make him so successful...

we will not win games if it's all on Matt Cassel...ever.

But he executed the offensive gameplan wonderfully today and that's all we should ask as fans.

If we want to blame someone today (and there doesn't always have to be blame after a loss)...it's our defense. Plain and simple. We couldn't stop Foster, Schaub or Johnson when it counted and that's why we lost.

Just Passin' By · 10-17-2010, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

FACT FACT: Cassel was 20th in passing yards among NFL quarterbacks today.

Against. the. worst. secondary. ever.

SURE CAN'T ASK FOR MORE THAN THAT!!!

In 2003, a 14-2 season, with C.W. as the Patriots coordinator, Brady had games with total passing yards of:

134
147
193
91
150
138
190

Your point about yardage might have more validity if you actually tied it to something of value. The Chiefs put up 31 points in the game. Blaming Cassel for the loss makes no sense, since he executed the game plan pretty darned well. The Chiefs defense surrendered 28 second half points. You might want to start looking there.

**DeezNutz** · 10-17-2010, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

It's not your ****ing money...

Why the **** does anyone care what Matt Cassel is paid?

There is no salary cap...and if there was...we'd be so far below the cap it wouldn't even matter...

so why the **** is that even part of the argument?

Who the **** cares?

Because it's a barometer of how he *should* compare to the rest of the league and the relative worth that our FO has assigned him.

Sorry, but it's absolutely relevant.

Silock · 10-17-2010, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

If you watched that game and determined the Texans were a better team than the Chiefs...than you don't know what you're watching.

Fact.

Despite the fact that they shut down our offense when they had to? Our defense didn't do that.

Despite the fact that they put up points when they had to? Our offense didn't do that.

What makes the Chiefs a better team than the Texans?

They have a better QB and WRs (although, admittedly not even close to us on RBs). They have a balanced offensive attack. They've won more games than we have over the course of the season.

I'm just not seeing where the Chiefs are clearly better than the Texans, especially when they just beat us.

Hootie · 10-17-2010, 10:53 PM

GoChiefs is ignorant.

Our gameplan was to run the ****ing ball...

Which we did.

It wasn't for Cassel to chuck the ball.

QUICK GOCHIEFS, QUICK...

QUICK STATBOY...

What was our rank today in offensive yards gained.

Huh?

Huh?

tk13 · 10-17-2010, 10:53 PM

I think he looked like a QB who could help us win this division today. I wouldn't fire up the parade for that though. To me he definitely looked more confident than any other game this year, actually appeared to have some command of the offense today.

But I also think some of the excuses people are making are nuts. Are people that desperate to discredit him? I mean if you want to bag the 3rd and 2 throw, no problem. Taking away the yards on Bowe's run, really? That's craziness. Anybody who's going to sit around and debate that needs to step away from the ledge.

Hootie · 10-17-2010, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock

Despite the fact that they shut down our offense when they had to? Our defense didn't do that.

Despite the fact that they put up points when they had to? Our offense didn't do that.

What makes the Chiefs a better team than the Texans?

They have a better QB and WRs (although, admittedly not even close to us on RBs). They have a balanced offensive attack. They've won more games than we have over the course of the season.

I'm just not seeing where the Chiefs are clearly better than the Texans, especially when they just beat us.

We controlled the entire game...the entire time...

We didn't make the plays at the end...

That was it.

Play this game 10 times, we win 7.5.

Hootie · 10-17-2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Because it's a barometer of how he *should* compare to the rest of the league and the relative worth that our FO has assigned him.

Sorry, but it's absolutely relevant.

No it ****ing isn't.

Plain and simple.

What he is getting paid means NOTHING...not one bit.

Sam Bradford makes more than Peyton Manning.

$$$$ has nothing to do with ANY ****ING THING

**DeezNutz** · 10-17-2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Is Cassel good enough to help this team win playoff games?

...anyone...anyone?

And I'm not talking in a "Dilfer mode."

Sure-Oz · 10-17-2010, 10:55 PM

Cassel didn't blwo this game, even though he sucks he played as well as he probably can.

Defense blew it with 4 straight TD's given up

Hootie · 10-17-2010, 10:56 PM

his command of the gameplan today ALONE was impressive...

we run a disciplined ship...

shit his elusiveness even saved the Chiefs from 3 or 4 sacks today...

He's not a gamebreaker...he won't win games single-handedly

but if he plays like he did today and executes our gameplan that successfully...we can win a playoff game this year...no ****ing doubt

**DeezNutz** · 10-17-2010, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

No it ****ing isn't.

Plain and simple.

What he is getting paid means NOTHING...not one bit.

Sam Bradford makes more than Peyton Manning.

$$$$ has nothing to do with ANY ****ING THING

Wow.

And the Bradford comparison couldn't be more unrelated, but that's ok. I'm sure you'll try to say it's not, but this will be wrong, too.

Silock · 10-17-2010, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

We controlled the entire game...the entire time...

We didn't make the plays at the end...

That was it.

Play this game 10 times, we win 7.5.

We obviously didn't control the ENTIRE game. If we were THAT in control, we wouldn't have needed a defensive stop, then an offensive (AT LEAST) first down, then another defensive stop to win the game.

Play this game 100 times, we win 25. Do we really want to play THAT game, Hootie? Bear in mind, I'm simply trying to have a conversation with you in this thread, not hate on you.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-17-2010, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

We controlled the entire game...the entire time...

We didn't make the plays at the end...

That was it.

Play this game 10 times, we win 7.5.

Play this game once, we lost once.

If we controlled the entire game, it shouldn't have been close.

Our offense looked a lot better than it has for a while. But our defense legitimately gave up 34 points.

A team in control doesn't give up that many points.

**DeezNutz** · 10-17-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Cassel didn't blwo this game, even though he sucks he played as well as he probably can.

Defense blew it with 4 straight TD's given up

Completely agree, and it was his best game as a Chief.

10-17-2010, 10:06 PM
yhf Starter Join Date: May 2010 Location: OPKS Casino cash: $10004925	People blaming Cassel for this loss are clearly maladjusted freaks. For Christs sake, blame the coaches, blame the refs, blame the defense. Do NOT blame Matt Cassel. He provided a winning effort. C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT RATING M. Cassel 20/29 201 6.9 3 0 122.9 Anyone that asks for more production, is, a dumb**. Don't get me wrong, I doubt the shit out of Cassel, but his performance in this game was extremely encouraging. Any purported Chiefs fan that wasn't impressed and pleased by his play should just... get a **ing grip.
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10-17-2010, 10:51 PM	#61
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	you guys think Peyton Mannings grow on trees... Trent Green heavily relied on the running game to get his numbers, too... every time we needed Trent on the last drive in a game where we needed a score...he choked up too without Priest Holmes and the element of a running game there to make him so successful... we will not win games if it's all on Matt Cassel...ever. But he executed the offensive gameplan wonderfully today and that's all we should ask as fans. If we want to blame someone today (and there doesn't always have to be blame after a loss)...it's our defense. Plain and simple. We couldn't stop Foster, Schaub or Johnson when it counted and that's why we lost.
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10-17-2010, 10:53 PM	#65
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	GoChiefs is ignorant. Our gameplan was to run the ****ing ball... Which we did. It wasn't for Cassel to chuck the ball. QUICK GOCHIEFS, QUICK... QUICK STATBOY... What was our rank today in offensive yards gained. Huh? Huh?
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10-17-2010, 10:53 PM	#66
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1822500	I think he looked like a QB who could help us win this division today. I wouldn't fire up the parade for that though. To me he definitely looked more confident than any other game this year, actually appeared to have some command of the offense today. But I also think some of the excuses people are making are nuts. Are people that desperate to discredit him? I mean if you want to bag the 3rd and 2 throw, no problem. Taking away the yards on Bowe's run, really? That's craziness. Anybody who's going to sit around and debate that needs to step away from the ledge.
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10-17-2010, 10:56 PM	#71
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	his command of the gameplan today ALONE was impressive... we run a disciplined ship... shit his elusiveness even saved the Chiefs from 3 or 4 sacks today... He's not a gamebreaker...he won't win games single-handedly but if he plays like he did today and executes our gameplan that successfully...we can win a playoff game this year...no ****ing doubt
Posts: 56,356